Ronald Maas (ronaldjmaas.delete@this.gmail.com) on February 23, 2019 5:33 pm wrote:
> David Soul (hd4lys+4s3zx2rexne0k.delete@this.sharklasers.com) on February 22, 2019 5:05 pm wrote:
> > Your right,so why have you not looked around and seen all the
> > big company's all moving in some fashion to implement ARM.
> > "HP announced two ARM-powered servers, including the first enterprise-class 64-bit ARM server,
> > to expand customer choice for compute with targeted solutions for selected workloads."
> >
> > Japans new supercomputer uses ARM.
> > https://www.fujitsu.com/global/Images/post-k-supercomputer-overview.pdf
> >
> > Huawei Unveils New Chipset Using Arm Design for Server Push
> > JAN 07, 2019
> > AWS Launches Cloud Instances Powered by Custom Arm Chips
> > NOV 27, 2018
> > HPE and DOE Partner to Build Largest ARM-Based Supercomputer
> > JUN 22, 2018
> > https://www.datacenterknowledge.com
> >
> > Dell,HP,IBM,Google,Facebook,Amazon,Baidu etc the list goes,all these
> > companys are said to have started to invest in ARM servers.
> > Softbank group bought ARM for $32 billion,because they think it's
> > a dead tech? No because your watch,smartphone,tv,fridge,smart
> > home,smart car,video door bell,SBC's,cube sats (you get the point) all use ARM.
> >
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> >
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>
> Problem is when I search Amazon or Newegg for 'ThunderX2', I got offers for a gaming chair. Searching for 'ARM
> Server' returns a ARM based tinker board, and finally 'X-Gene' an album of an artist I never heard of.
>
> So one critical requirements for ARM to have success in the server space is a wide range
> of ARM based development and server hardware to buy, and have the confidence that these
> products exist one or two years from now. I fully agree with Linus on this.
>
> Second the TCO for ARM should be significant lower compared to x86. It is nice AWS offers ARM based
> instances, but quick price check seems these are about 20% more expensive compared to Intel Xeon.
>
> Third single thread CPU performance and uncore performance (memory bandwidth, latency,
> etc.) should be good enough for the majority of enterprise applications to run successfully.
> Fortunately most Xeons sold are not exactly speed demons, and from what I have read about
> ThunderX2 and now Neoverse N1, So I think we are getting there in that regard.
>
> Personally I like to see ARM to become a success in the server space. But with points 1) and
> 2) seriously lacking at the moment, I think it will be a hard sell to convince businesses
> to consider ARM as a viable alternative for x86. Will be at least a few years from now.
>
> Ronald
>

That you cannot blame Arm, whose business is only selling IP to SoC providers.
Arm is NOT Intel or IBM, it cannot and will not sell chips or laptops or servers directly...