By: Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com), February 25, 2019 12:03 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
dmcq (dmcq.delete@this.fano.co.uk) on February 25, 2019 10:35 am wrote:
> Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on February 25, 2019 9:43 am wrote:
> > Not the parent (not3par.delete@this.gmail.com) on February 25, 2019 9:36 am wrote:
> > > Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on February 25, 2019 1:03 am wrote:
> > > > why not?
> > >
> > > Arm doesn't build nor sells hardware. That would mean competing
> > > against their own customers so it will never happen.
> >
> > Competing against your own customers is pretty common in this industry.
>
> Arm was built on cooperation and the idea of an ecosystem. Competing with people
> you talk with at an early stage of development would be very destructive of such
> trust and with it their business model. I'm surprised you aren't aware of this.
>
Competing with ARM architecture licensees, i.e. customers, most of them customers in more than one role, is an integral and very important part of Arm's business model.
I'm surprised you aren't aware of this.
> Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on February 25, 2019 9:43 am wrote:
> > Not the parent (not3par.delete@this.gmail.com) on February 25, 2019 9:36 am wrote:
> > > Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on February 25, 2019 1:03 am wrote:
> > > > why not?
> > >
> > > Arm doesn't build nor sells hardware. That would mean competing
> > > against their own customers so it will never happen.
> >
> > Competing against your own customers is pretty common in this industry.
>
> Arm was built on cooperation and the idea of an ecosystem. Competing with people
> you talk with at an early stage of development would be very destructive of such
> trust and with it their business model. I'm surprised you aren't aware of this.
>
Competing with ARM architecture licensees, i.e. customers, most of them customers in more than one role, is an integral and very important part of Arm's business model.
I'm surprised you aren't aware of this.
| Topic | Posted By | Date |
|---|---|---|
| ARM announces Ares | nobody in particular | 2019/02/20 08:35 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Adrian | 2019/02/20 08:39 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 10:03 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/20 10:41 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 12:49 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/20 01:21 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 02:01 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Wilco | 2019/02/20 02:31 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 03:16 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Wilco | 2019/02/20 03:49 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 04:09 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Wilco | 2019/02/20 04:45 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | nobody in particular | 2019/02/20 04:55 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Dan Fay | 2019/02/20 05:44 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Wilco | 2019/02/20 07:06 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Dan Fay | 2019/02/21 08:27 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 05:49 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Wilco | 2019/02/20 06:40 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Charles | 2019/02/21 02:16 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 02:26 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | anon | 2019/02/20 08:55 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | JS | 2019/02/21 12:59 AM |
| *has not hasn't (NT) | JS | 2019/02/21 01:01 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Salvatore De Dominicis | 2019/02/21 07:05 AM |
| Definitions of RISC | Brendan | 2019/02/21 10:07 AM |
| Definitions of RISC | Michael S | 2019/02/21 10:16 AM |
| PDP-8 Not Usually Considered RISC | Mark Roulo | 2019/02/21 02:10 PM |
| PDP-8 Not Usually Considered RISC | rwessel | 2019/02/21 07:13 PM |
| Definitions of RISC | Adrian | 2019/02/21 02:42 PM |
| Definitions of RISC (nod to John Mashey and comp.arch) | wumpus | 2019/02/21 06:29 PM |
| Definitions of RISC (nod to John Mashey and comp.arch) | none | 2019/02/22 12:32 AM |
| Definitions of RISC (nod to John Mashey and comp.arch) | Michael S | 2019/02/22 04:28 AM |
| Definitions of RISC (nod to John Mashey and comp.arch) | none | 2019/02/22 08:01 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | lockederboss | 2019/02/20 09:56 AM |
| stability? (NT) | anonymous2 | 2019/02/20 10:01 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 10:05 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Groo | 2019/02/20 10:11 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Andrei Frumusanu | 2019/02/20 11:49 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Linus Torvalds | 2019/02/20 10:36 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/20 10:54 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Geoff Langdale | 2019/02/20 03:07 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 03:32 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/21 12:03 AM |
| That last line should have been removed :-) (NT) | none | 2019/02/21 12:04 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 01:47 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/21 03:59 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 04:45 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/21 05:18 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Simon Farnsworth | 2019/02/22 09:43 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | anon | 2019/02/20 09:27 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 01:53 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Linus Torvalds | 2019/02/21 09:03 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 09:35 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 09:51 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Foo_ | 2019/02/21 02:40 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | aaron spink | 2019/02/21 03:56 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Linus Torvalds | 2019/02/21 04:27 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Stoffels | 2019/02/22 12:21 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/22 04:15 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Simon Farnsworth | 2019/02/22 09:41 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/22 10:30 AM |
| In other words: nobody will ever get fired for choosing x86 (NT) | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/24 01:32 PM |
| In other words: nobody will ever get fired for choosing x86 | Simon Farnsworth | 2019/02/25 04:53 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Foo_ | 2019/02/22 02:52 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/24 01:31 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/25 03:57 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/25 04:21 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/25 04:58 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | nobody in particular | 2019/02/25 05:21 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Adrian | 2019/02/26 08:02 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/26 12:32 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/26 12:14 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Hess | 2019/03/19 05:34 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/26 01:34 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/26 12:16 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/27 12:19 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | end of an era | 2019/02/24 03:18 PM |
| Word salad bot strikes again (NT) | nanon | 2019/02/25 12:26 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | hobel | 2019/02/25 02:10 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/25 02:52 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | hobel | 2019/02/25 10:48 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Andrew Clough | 2019/02/25 02:07 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/26 12:38 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | John Yates | 2019/02/26 03:43 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/27 06:55 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Hess | 2019/03/19 05:22 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Hess | 2019/03/19 04:54 PM |
| ARMY announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/03/20 03:12 AM |
| ARMY announces Ares | David Hess | 2019/03/20 05:47 AM |
| ARMY announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/03/20 06:05 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Groo | 2019/02/21 10:23 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 10:29 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Hess | 2019/03/19 05:44 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | juanrga | 2019/02/21 11:52 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | anon | 2019/02/21 08:19 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | hobel | 2019/02/22 03:40 AM |
| software ecosystems | RichardC | 2019/02/21 04:31 PM |
| software ecosystems | Foo_ | 2019/02/22 03:15 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/21 05:31 PM |
| + on hyperscaling | dmcq | 2019/02/22 08:23 AM |
| + on hyperscaling | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/22 08:38 AM |
| + on hyperscaling | juanrga | 2019/02/22 11:57 AM |
| + on hyperscaling | dmcq | 2019/02/22 08:23 AM |
| sorry duplicate | dmcq | 2019/02/22 08:26 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | anon | 2019/02/21 08:34 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Brett | 2019/02/21 10:20 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | A. Wilcox | 2019/02/22 03:52 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Doug S | 2019/02/20 03:30 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 04:14 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Doug S | 2019/02/21 08:40 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | aaron spink | 2019/02/21 04:05 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/22 08:48 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | juanrga | 2019/02/21 02:28 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 03:25 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | juanrga | 2019/02/22 04:09 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/22 08:51 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Soul | 2019/02/22 11:47 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | juanrga | 2019/02/22 12:23 PM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | Brett | 2019/02/22 02:21 PM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | David Soul | 2019/02/22 06:05 PM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | Brett | 2019/02/22 09:55 PM |
| ARM sales | juanrga | 2019/02/23 03:55 AM |
| ARM sales | aaron spink | 2019/02/23 08:47 AM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | Ronald Maas | 2019/02/23 06:33 PM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | Magagop | 2019/02/24 11:18 PM |
| why not? (NT) | Michael S | 2019/02/25 02:03 AM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/25 10:36 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/25 10:43 AM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/25 11:35 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/25 12:03 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/25 12:29 PM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/26 10:08 AM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/02/26 12:05 PM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/27 04:51 AM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/02/27 12:15 PM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/28 01:43 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/26 11:22 PM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/27 04:59 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/27 06:42 AM |
| why not? | Magagop | 2019/02/27 03:31 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/27 05:02 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/27 05:25 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/27 05:56 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/27 06:19 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/27 06:46 PM |
| why not? | Wilco | 2019/02/28 05:49 AM |
| why not? | Jukka Larja | 2019/02/28 07:02 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/28 08:32 AM |
| why not? | Wilco | 2019/02/28 09:40 AM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/02/28 10:13 AM |
| why not? | Foo_ | 2019/03/01 07:35 AM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/03/01 11:05 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/01 02:32 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/01 03:13 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/01 04:13 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/02 03:56 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/02 10:09 AM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/02 10:41 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/02 12:19 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/03 03:48 AM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/03/02 04:53 PM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/03/02 05:06 PM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/03/03 12:54 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/03/03 02:58 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/03 05:35 AM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/03 06:33 AM |
| I considired dry humor a Brittish specialty. It seems, I was wrong about it. (NT) | Michael S | 2019/03/03 06:39 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/03 10:13 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/03/03 12:41 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/03 01:21 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/03 04:15 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/28 08:38 PM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/28 01:48 AM |
| strawman (NT) | anon | 2019/02/28 08:31 PM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/27 03:53 AM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/27 05:26 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/27 05:42 AM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/27 05:49 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/27 06:21 AM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/27 07:15 AM |
| Selling at multiple layers | Paul A. Clayton | 2019/02/27 11:25 AM |
| Selling at multiple layers | Doug S | 2019/02/27 12:45 PM |
| Selling at multiple layers | Paul A. Clayton | 2019/02/27 02:32 PM |
| Selling at multiple layers | Doug S | 2019/02/27 04:04 PM |
| Paul A. Clayton | 2019/02/27 07:06 PM | |
| Arm reference board? | Simon Farnsworth | 2019/02/28 12:34 PM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/02/27 12:46 PM |
| why not? (NT) | la mama de murgay | 2019/02/25 10:22 PM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | Ronald Maas | 2019/02/25 01:23 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/24 03:07 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | juanrga | 2019/03/02 05:40 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/03/02 08:08 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/03/02 10:10 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | hobel | 2019/02/22 04:33 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Soul | 2019/02/22 06:20 PM |
| Troll | Doug S | 2019/02/23 01:37 AM |
| Troll | David Soul | 2019/02/23 08:59 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Ennis | 2019/02/23 02:18 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Foo_ | 2019/02/23 02:38 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | anon | 2019/02/23 03:46 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/23 05:41 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | nobody in particular | 2019/02/26 03:58 AM |
| expensive | anonymous2 | 2019/02/27 12:46 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/27 07:19 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/27 07:21 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/27 07:57 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Jukka Larja | 2019/02/27 08:11 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/27 08:16 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Doug S | 2019/02/27 12:49 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/27 01:43 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Doug S | 2019/02/27 04:06 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gian-Carlo Pascutto | 2019/02/28 05:00 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gian-Carlo Pascutto | 2019/02/28 05:02 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/03/01 03:47 AM |
| death by a thousand cuts | Michael S | 2019/03/01 07:27 AM |
| death by a thousand cuts | Foo_ | 2019/03/01 07:37 AM |
| death by a thousand cuts | dmcq | 2019/03/01 12:10 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Jukka Larja | 2019/02/28 06:31 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/28 09:17 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/28 03:02 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | aaron spink | 2019/03/01 01:19 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Andrew Clough | 2019/02/28 11:32 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Andrew Clough | 2019/02/28 11:33 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Foo_ | 2019/03/01 01:55 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Jukka Larja | 2019/03/01 05:40 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/27 08:45 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/27 09:17 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/27 09:21 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/27 04:03 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Jukka Larja | 2019/02/28 06:03 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/27 11:49 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/28 04:26 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Peter E. Fry | 2019/02/28 07:31 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Adrian | 2019/02/28 10:09 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/03/02 12:56 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/03/02 10:05 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/03/02 02:31 PM |