anon (anon.delete@this.anon.com) on February 26, 2019 10:22 pm wrote:
> Not the parent (not3par.delete@this.gmail.com) on February 26, 2019 9:08 am wrote:
> > Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on February 25, 2019 11:03 am wrote:
> > > dmcq (dmcq.delete@this.fano.co.uk) on February 25, 2019 10:35 am wrote:
> > > > Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on February 25, 2019 9:43 am wrote:
> > > > > Not the parent (not3par.delete@this.gmail.com) on February 25, 2019 9:36 am wrote:
> > > > > > Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on February 25, 2019 1:03 am wrote:
> > > > > > > why not?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Arm doesn't build nor sells hardware. That would mean competing
> > > > > > against their own customers so it will never happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Competing against your own customers is pretty common in this industry.
> > > >
> > > > Arm was built on cooperation and the idea of an ecosystem. Competing with people
> > > > you talk with at an early stage of development would be very destructive of such
> > > > trust and with it their business model. I'm surprised you aren't aware of this.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Competing with ARM architecture licensees, i.e. customers, most of them customers in
> > > more than one role, is an integral and very important part of Arm's business model.
> > > I'm surprised you aren't aware of this.
> > >
> >
> > You're extremely confused about what Arm actually does. Arm doesn't sell products, their licensees
> > sell products. Arm licensees don't sell licenses, Arm sells licenses. You will never see Arm selling
> > products because that's the instant their customers stop being happy about funding Arm.
> >
> > Arm does not and will never compete with their customers because their whole business
> > model depends on it. Give Apple *one* reason to switch to RISCV and they're gone.
>
> No, it's actually you who are extremely confused, either with comprehension
> of OP's post or with what ARM actually does, I'm not sure.
>

FYI, this was the original point of discussion:

"Arm is NOT Intel or IBM, it cannot and will not sell chips or laptops or servers directly..."

Then somebody asked "Why not?"

> Because the post did nowhere imply that ARM sells chips or
> any physical device (if that's what you mean by product).
>

Now we know who didn't understand what was being discussed.

> Do you know what an ARM architecture license is? A implementation license?
> If yes, then you would know how ARM competes with (some of) its customers.

An Arm ISA license allows a company to build their own implementations of the Arm ISA. An IP core license allows a company to build SoCs that include that IP core. Arm doesn't build their own chips, at all, so they're not competing with companies who live off of selling chips, systems or any other kind of physical product. Arm's whole business model is based on their customers succeeding at selling physical products that include Arm's IP.