By: David Hess (davidwhess.delete@this.gmail.com), March 19, 2019 5:44 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on February 21, 2019 10:29 am wrote:
> Groo (charlie.delete@this.semiaccurate.com) on February 21, 2019 9:23 am wrote:
> >
> > On a related note, I agree with you on the past but I don't think it will play out
> > the same this time for reasons far too complex to put into a post. Time will tell
> > but I think the next 24 months will radically shift your views on this topic.
>
> Summary: HP is doomed, NVidia is doomed, Intel is doomed.
Intel sure is doomed if Microsoft has anything to say about it.
Like the Red Queen, an alternative to x86 does not have to beat the x86 of the past; it only has to beat the x86 of the future where dedicated x86 development systems no longer exist.
> Groo (charlie.delete@this.semiaccurate.com) on February 21, 2019 9:23 am wrote:
> >
> > On a related note, I agree with you on the past but I don't think it will play out
> > the same this time for reasons far too complex to put into a post. Time will tell
> > but I think the next 24 months will radically shift your views on this topic.
>
> Summary: HP is doomed, NVidia is doomed, Intel is doomed.
Intel sure is doomed if Microsoft has anything to say about it.
Like the Red Queen, an alternative to x86 does not have to beat the x86 of the past; it only has to beat the x86 of the future where dedicated x86 development systems no longer exist.
| Topic | Posted By | Date |
|---|---|---|
| ARM announces Ares | nobody in particular | 2019/02/20 08:35 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Adrian | 2019/02/20 08:39 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 10:03 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/20 10:41 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 12:49 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/20 01:21 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 02:01 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Wilco | 2019/02/20 02:31 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 03:16 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Wilco | 2019/02/20 03:49 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 04:09 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Wilco | 2019/02/20 04:45 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | nobody in particular | 2019/02/20 04:55 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Dan Fay | 2019/02/20 05:44 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Wilco | 2019/02/20 07:06 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Dan Fay | 2019/02/21 08:27 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 05:49 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Wilco | 2019/02/20 06:40 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Charles | 2019/02/21 02:16 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 02:26 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | anon | 2019/02/20 08:55 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | JS | 2019/02/21 12:59 AM |
| *has not hasn't (NT) | JS | 2019/02/21 01:01 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Salvatore De Dominicis | 2019/02/21 07:05 AM |
| Definitions of RISC | Brendan | 2019/02/21 10:07 AM |
| Definitions of RISC | Michael S | 2019/02/21 10:16 AM |
| PDP-8 Not Usually Considered RISC | Mark Roulo | 2019/02/21 02:10 PM |
| PDP-8 Not Usually Considered RISC | rwessel | 2019/02/21 07:13 PM |
| Definitions of RISC | Adrian | 2019/02/21 02:42 PM |
| Definitions of RISC (nod to John Mashey and comp.arch) | wumpus | 2019/02/21 06:29 PM |
| Definitions of RISC (nod to John Mashey and comp.arch) | none | 2019/02/22 12:32 AM |
| Definitions of RISC (nod to John Mashey and comp.arch) | Michael S | 2019/02/22 04:28 AM |
| Definitions of RISC (nod to John Mashey and comp.arch) | none | 2019/02/22 08:01 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | lockederboss | 2019/02/20 09:56 AM |
| stability? (NT) | anonymous2 | 2019/02/20 10:01 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 10:05 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Groo | 2019/02/20 10:11 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Andrei Frumusanu | 2019/02/20 11:49 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Linus Torvalds | 2019/02/20 10:36 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/20 10:54 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Geoff Langdale | 2019/02/20 03:07 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 03:32 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/21 12:03 AM |
| That last line should have been removed :-) (NT) | none | 2019/02/21 12:04 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 01:47 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/21 03:59 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 04:45 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/21 05:18 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Simon Farnsworth | 2019/02/22 09:43 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | anon | 2019/02/20 09:27 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 01:53 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Linus Torvalds | 2019/02/21 09:03 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 09:35 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 09:51 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Foo_ | 2019/02/21 02:40 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | aaron spink | 2019/02/21 03:56 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Linus Torvalds | 2019/02/21 04:27 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Stoffels | 2019/02/22 12:21 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/22 04:15 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Simon Farnsworth | 2019/02/22 09:41 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/22 10:30 AM |
| In other words: nobody will ever get fired for choosing x86 (NT) | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/24 01:32 PM |
| In other words: nobody will ever get fired for choosing x86 | Simon Farnsworth | 2019/02/25 04:53 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Foo_ | 2019/02/22 02:52 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/24 01:31 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/25 03:57 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/25 04:21 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/25 04:58 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | nobody in particular | 2019/02/25 05:21 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Adrian | 2019/02/26 08:02 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/26 12:32 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/26 12:14 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Hess | 2019/03/19 05:34 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/26 01:34 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/26 12:16 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/27 12:19 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | end of an era | 2019/02/24 03:18 PM |
| Word salad bot strikes again (NT) | nanon | 2019/02/25 12:26 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | hobel | 2019/02/25 02:10 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/25 02:52 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | hobel | 2019/02/25 10:48 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Andrew Clough | 2019/02/25 02:07 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/26 12:38 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | John Yates | 2019/02/26 03:43 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/27 06:55 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Hess | 2019/03/19 05:22 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Hess | 2019/03/19 04:54 PM |
| ARMY announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/03/20 03:12 AM |
| ARMY announces Ares | David Hess | 2019/03/20 05:47 AM |
| ARMY announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/03/20 06:05 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Groo | 2019/02/21 10:23 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 10:29 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Hess | 2019/03/19 05:44 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | juanrga | 2019/02/21 11:52 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | anon | 2019/02/21 08:19 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | hobel | 2019/02/22 03:40 AM |
| software ecosystems | RichardC | 2019/02/21 04:31 PM |
| software ecosystems | Foo_ | 2019/02/22 03:15 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/21 05:31 PM |
| + on hyperscaling | dmcq | 2019/02/22 08:23 AM |
| + on hyperscaling | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/22 08:38 AM |
| + on hyperscaling | juanrga | 2019/02/22 11:57 AM |
| + on hyperscaling | dmcq | 2019/02/22 08:23 AM |
| sorry duplicate | dmcq | 2019/02/22 08:26 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | anon | 2019/02/21 08:34 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Brett | 2019/02/21 10:20 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | A. Wilcox | 2019/02/22 03:52 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Doug S | 2019/02/20 03:30 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/20 04:14 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Doug S | 2019/02/21 08:40 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | aaron spink | 2019/02/21 04:05 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/22 08:48 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | juanrga | 2019/02/21 02:28 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/21 03:25 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | juanrga | 2019/02/22 04:09 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Maynard Handley | 2019/02/22 08:51 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Soul | 2019/02/22 11:47 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | juanrga | 2019/02/22 12:23 PM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | Brett | 2019/02/22 02:21 PM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | David Soul | 2019/02/22 06:05 PM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | Brett | 2019/02/22 09:55 PM |
| ARM sales | juanrga | 2019/02/23 03:55 AM |
| ARM sales | aaron spink | 2019/02/23 08:47 AM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | Ronald Maas | 2019/02/23 06:33 PM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | Magagop | 2019/02/24 11:18 PM |
| why not? (NT) | Michael S | 2019/02/25 02:03 AM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/25 10:36 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/25 10:43 AM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/25 11:35 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/25 12:03 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/25 12:29 PM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/26 10:08 AM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/02/26 12:05 PM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/27 04:51 AM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/02/27 12:15 PM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/28 01:43 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/26 11:22 PM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/27 04:59 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/27 06:42 AM |
| why not? | Magagop | 2019/02/27 03:31 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/27 05:02 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/27 05:25 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/27 05:56 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/27 06:19 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/27 06:46 PM |
| why not? | Wilco | 2019/02/28 05:49 AM |
| why not? | Jukka Larja | 2019/02/28 07:02 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/28 08:32 AM |
| why not? | Wilco | 2019/02/28 09:40 AM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/02/28 10:13 AM |
| why not? | Foo_ | 2019/03/01 07:35 AM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/03/01 11:05 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/01 02:32 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/01 03:13 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/01 04:13 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/02 03:56 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/02 10:09 AM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/02 10:41 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/02 12:19 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/03 03:48 AM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/03/02 04:53 PM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/03/02 05:06 PM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/03/03 12:54 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/03/03 02:58 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/03 05:35 AM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/03 06:33 AM |
| I considired dry humor a Brittish specialty. It seems, I was wrong about it. (NT) | Michael S | 2019/03/03 06:39 AM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/03 10:13 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/03/03 12:41 PM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/03/03 01:21 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/03/03 04:15 PM |
| why not? | anon | 2019/02/28 08:38 PM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/28 01:48 AM |
| strawman (NT) | anon | 2019/02/28 08:31 PM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/27 03:53 AM |
| why not? | Not the parent | 2019/02/27 05:26 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/27 05:42 AM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/27 05:49 AM |
| why not? | Michael S | 2019/02/27 06:21 AM |
| why not? | dmcq | 2019/02/27 07:15 AM |
| Selling at multiple layers | Paul A. Clayton | 2019/02/27 11:25 AM |
| Selling at multiple layers | Doug S | 2019/02/27 12:45 PM |
| Selling at multiple layers | Paul A. Clayton | 2019/02/27 02:32 PM |
| Selling at multiple layers | Doug S | 2019/02/27 04:04 PM |
| Paul A. Clayton | 2019/02/27 07:06 PM | |
| Arm reference board? | Simon Farnsworth | 2019/02/28 12:34 PM |
| why not? | Doug S | 2019/02/27 12:46 PM |
| why not? (NT) | la mama de murgay | 2019/02/25 10:22 PM |
| Chicken or egg, both. | Ronald Maas | 2019/02/25 01:23 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/24 03:07 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | juanrga | 2019/03/02 05:40 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/03/02 08:08 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/03/02 10:10 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | hobel | 2019/02/22 04:33 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | David Soul | 2019/02/22 06:20 PM |
| Troll | Doug S | 2019/02/23 01:37 AM |
| Troll | David Soul | 2019/02/23 08:59 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Ennis | 2019/02/23 02:18 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Foo_ | 2019/02/23 02:38 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | anon | 2019/02/23 03:46 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/23 05:41 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | nobody in particular | 2019/02/26 03:58 AM |
| expensive | anonymous2 | 2019/02/27 12:46 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/27 07:19 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/27 07:21 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/27 07:57 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Jukka Larja | 2019/02/27 08:11 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/27 08:16 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Doug S | 2019/02/27 12:49 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/02/27 01:43 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Doug S | 2019/02/27 04:06 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gian-Carlo Pascutto | 2019/02/28 05:00 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gian-Carlo Pascutto | 2019/02/28 05:02 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Michael S | 2019/03/01 03:47 AM |
| death by a thousand cuts | Michael S | 2019/03/01 07:27 AM |
| death by a thousand cuts | Foo_ | 2019/03/01 07:37 AM |
| death by a thousand cuts | dmcq | 2019/03/01 12:10 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Jukka Larja | 2019/02/28 06:31 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/28 09:17 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/02/28 03:02 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | aaron spink | 2019/03/01 01:19 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Andrew Clough | 2019/02/28 11:32 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Andrew Clough | 2019/02/28 11:33 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Foo_ | 2019/03/01 01:55 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Jukka Larja | 2019/03/01 05:40 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/27 08:45 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/27 09:17 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | dmcq | 2019/02/27 09:21 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/27 04:03 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Jukka Larja | 2019/02/28 06:03 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | none | 2019/02/27 11:49 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/02/28 04:26 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Peter E. Fry | 2019/02/28 07:31 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Adrian | 2019/02/28 10:09 PM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/03/02 12:56 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Howard Chu | 2019/03/02 10:05 AM |
| ARM announces Ares | Gabriele Svelto | 2019/03/02 02:31 PM |