By: Jukka Larja (roskakori2006.delete@this.gmail.com), April 23, 2019 11:55 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Aaron Spink (aaronspink.delete@this.notearthlink.net) on April 23, 2019 8:27 am wrote:
> blue (blue.delete@this.blue.com) on April 23, 2019 12:36 am wrote:
> > Also again, currently the extra cost to add a disk drive is
>
> 4k UHD is basically dead. Hell, BR is practically dead. Just about everyone acknowledges this fact including
> the people that make BR players.
Although I mostly agree about UHD (too little too late), this dead Bluray format still sells for several tens of millions per week in US. Of course, DVD sells even more.
> That disk drive is just wasted overhead in a modern console for the vast majority
> of users. Even with poor internet, you can download a 100GB game in under a day via preload.
>
> I will be shocked if next gen consoles have built in optical media. I can see them having
> a USB based option, but included just doesn't make sense from either a financial or practical
> sense. Sony et al can give retailers 1/4 of what it would of cost to include and they'll be
> more than happy. They can sell codes and credit for the console like they already do.
Although technically that may make perfect sense, I just don't see it. People who have bad Internet connection or who just prefer (or think they prefer) physical media for sentimental reasons will take a look at the external drive and feel that the console isn't for them. And do you seriously believe someone is going to publish games on disk for a console that doesn't include built-in optical drive in any configuration? Even today, large percentage of games published for PS4 and Xbox One are download only.
It's not impossible that BDless console makes sense when PS5 is published (that could easily be 18 months away after all), but I don't think including an option for external BD drive is viable.
-JLarja
> blue (blue.delete@this.blue.com) on April 23, 2019 12:36 am wrote:
> > Also again, currently the extra cost to add a disk drive is
>
> 4k UHD is basically dead. Hell, BR is practically dead. Just about everyone acknowledges this fact including
> the people that make BR players.
Although I mostly agree about UHD (too little too late), this dead Bluray format still sells for several tens of millions per week in US. Of course, DVD sells even more.
> That disk drive is just wasted overhead in a modern console for the vast majority
> of users. Even with poor internet, you can download a 100GB game in under a day via preload.
>
> I will be shocked if next gen consoles have built in optical media. I can see them having
> a USB based option, but included just doesn't make sense from either a financial or practical
> sense. Sony et al can give retailers 1/4 of what it would of cost to include and they'll be
> more than happy. They can sell codes and credit for the console like they already do.
Although technically that may make perfect sense, I just don't see it. People who have bad Internet connection or who just prefer (or think they prefer) physical media for sentimental reasons will take a look at the external drive and feel that the console isn't for them. And do you seriously believe someone is going to publish games on disk for a console that doesn't include built-in optical drive in any configuration? Even today, large percentage of games published for PS4 and Xbox One are download only.
It's not impossible that BDless console makes sense when PS5 is published (that could easily be 18 months away after all), but I don't think including an option for external BD drive is viable.
-JLarja