By: anon (spam.delete.delete.delete@this.this.this.spam.com), April 26, 2019 11:27 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Aaron Spink (aaronspink.delete@this.notearthlink.net) on April 25, 2019 12:12 pm wrote:
> anon (spam.delete.delete.delete@this.this.this.spam.com) on April 25, 2019 9:00 am wrote:
> >
> > Afaik Samsung announced they would not release anymore UHD-BD players.
> > That's quite different from not releasing any UHD devices at all (4K TVs won't go away)
> > and doesn't imply that they think BD is dead. BD is still >40% of the market and doing
> > well enough, they just can't be bothered with the 5% that is UHD-BD anymore.
> >
> Sorry, thought it was implied, by context, we were talking about optical disc players.
>
> BD is ~40% of the optical movie market, but that's not the total market. Total market and use puts BDs are
> ~10% currently. Vast majority of home viewing isn't optical anymore and instead digital/streaming based.
>
>
Sure, but BD players also address the DVD market.
Whether or not BD has peaked against DVD and/or peaked overall you have to separate these things.
BD-UHD being dead doesn't imply BD is dead.
BD being 40-50% of the optical disc market does not imply BD players are 40-50% of the optical disc player market.
If anything triple purpose (DVD, BD, games) is Sony's best chance to get someone to buy a BD player, which is definitely a good thing for them considering they make more money per BD sold than per stream view. To keep selling a console with a built in ODD is beneficial to them.
For Microsoft it's reversed. They don't care about BD sales. They want to maximize the number of consoles so if the price drop enabled by remove the ODD leads to more consoles sold they'll do it. In fact they did and Sony didn't. Will anything change drastically until 2020 so that it would be better for Sony to drop it completely like you suggest? If not then I don't see why they would.
> anon (spam.delete.delete.delete@this.this.this.spam.com) on April 25, 2019 9:00 am wrote:
> >
> > Afaik Samsung announced they would not release anymore UHD-BD players.
> > That's quite different from not releasing any UHD devices at all (4K TVs won't go away)
> > and doesn't imply that they think BD is dead. BD is still >40% of the market and doing
> > well enough, they just can't be bothered with the 5% that is UHD-BD anymore.
> >
> Sorry, thought it was implied, by context, we were talking about optical disc players.
>
> BD is ~40% of the optical movie market, but that's not the total market. Total market and use puts BDs are
> ~10% currently. Vast majority of home viewing isn't optical anymore and instead digital/streaming based.
>
>
Sure, but BD players also address the DVD market.
Whether or not BD has peaked against DVD and/or peaked overall you have to separate these things.
BD-UHD being dead doesn't imply BD is dead.
BD being 40-50% of the optical disc market does not imply BD players are 40-50% of the optical disc player market.
If anything triple purpose (DVD, BD, games) is Sony's best chance to get someone to buy a BD player, which is definitely a good thing for them considering they make more money per BD sold than per stream view. To keep selling a console with a built in ODD is beneficial to them.
For Microsoft it's reversed. They don't care about BD sales. They want to maximize the number of consoles so if the price drop enabled by remove the ODD leads to more consoles sold they'll do it. In fact they did and Sony didn't. Will anything change drastically until 2020 so that it would be better for Sony to drop it completely like you suggest? If not then I don't see why they would.