By: Jukka Larja (roskakori2006.delete@this.gmail.com), April 19, 2019 12:41 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Gian-Carlo Pascutto (gcp.delete@this.sjeng.org) on April 19, 2019 11:12 am wrote:
> Jukka Larja (roskakori2006.delete@this.gmail.com) on April 19, 2019 10:44 am wrote:
> > Steam Hardware Survey is a nice place to see approximate features on still-in-use
> > CPUs.
>
> For games, yes. IIRC the systems on there are very high end to what we see in our userbase.
Yes, I think it's more useful for e.g. showing that AVX still has pretty low penetration rate. It's also the best public hardware survey that's constantly updated that I know of.
> Our hardware report is public too (https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware), though
> it doesn't have much details (yet?) on things like CPU extension support.
How is that data gathered? I don't remember Firefox asking for permission to gather data from me computers, thouhg maybe it's hidden in some EULA or such.
> I guess the question is what you'd want to use those processors for, eh?
For us (and probably so for most game developers) PC CPU extensions aren't really that interesting. Consoles are (for now at least) lagging so far behind in CPU performance that there's hardly any need to optimize PC CPU usage, if you are targeting any console. For us, it's mostly about using the stuff that is available on all consoles also on PC.
-JLarja
> Jukka Larja (roskakori2006.delete@this.gmail.com) on April 19, 2019 10:44 am wrote:
> > Steam Hardware Survey is a nice place to see approximate features on still-in-use
> > CPUs.
>
> For games, yes. IIRC the systems on there are very high end to what we see in our userbase.
Yes, I think it's more useful for e.g. showing that AVX still has pretty low penetration rate. It's also the best public hardware survey that's constantly updated that I know of.
> Our hardware report is public too (https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware), though
> it doesn't have much details (yet?) on things like CPU extension support.
How is that data gathered? I don't remember Firefox asking for permission to gather data from me computers, thouhg maybe it's hidden in some EULA or such.
> I guess the question is what you'd want to use those processors for, eh?
For us (and probably so for most game developers) PC CPU extensions aren't really that interesting. Consoles are (for now at least) lagging so far behind in CPU performance that there's hardly any need to optimize PC CPU usage, if you are targeting any console. For us, it's mostly about using the stuff that is available on all consoles also on PC.
-JLarja
| Topic | Posted By | Date |
|---|---|---|
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Beastian | 2019/04/19 09:05 AM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Gian-Carlo Pascutto | 2019/04/19 09:46 AM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Beastian | 2019/04/19 10:06 AM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Jukka Larja | 2019/04/19 10:44 AM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Gian-Carlo Pascutto | 2019/04/19 11:12 AM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Jukka Larja | 2019/04/19 12:41 PM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Robert Williams | 2019/04/19 01:18 PM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Gian-Carlo Pascutto | 2019/04/19 02:35 PM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Geoff Langdale | 2019/04/19 02:52 PM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Jukka Larja | 2019/04/19 09:38 PM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Yuhong Bao | 2019/04/20 02:35 PM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Doug S | 2019/04/19 10:40 AM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Beastian | 2019/04/19 11:10 AM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Robert Williams | 2019/04/20 08:15 AM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | anyone | 2019/04/20 07:11 AM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Groo | 2019/04/20 07:29 AM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | wumpus | 2019/04/20 08:32 AM |
| Intel vs AMD patents | Yuhong Bao | 2019/04/20 02:32 PM |
| Intel vs AMD patents | Beastian | 2019/04/20 03:35 PM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | Travis Downs | 2019/04/20 07:24 PM |
| Expiry of x86-64 patents | none | 2019/04/21 07:36 AM |