Expiry of x86-64 patents

By: anyone (any-dont.delete@this.me.com), April 20, 2019 7:11 am
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Beastian (noemail.delete@this.aol.com) on April 19, 2019 9:05 am wrote:
> Does anyone think that the upcoming expiry of patents on the core x86-64 instruction set
> which includes SSE2, maybe sooner than 2023 (as the Athlon 64 was introduced in 2003) would
> open the flood gates for third party implementations of compatible processors?
>
> The basic architecture including importantly the memory model could freely be implemented in hardware
> once that core instruction set falls out of patent; I'm unclear about the amount of traction that later
> Intel instructions have gotten in common software, but emulation could at least ensure compatibility.
> Competition in x86 implementation has languished for long stretches of time, though it has seen a resurgence
> as of late; compare that to the ARM ecosystem which has seen vast improvements due to a larger number
> of implementers: Apple, Qualcomm, nVidia, Samsung, ARM, Applied Micro and Cavium.

AMD didn't patent the x86-64 instruction set, but there are x86-related patents. x86 patents are not on the instruction set, which may be copyrighted for the specific mnemonics and names used for various features, but for implementation techniques. Unfortunately, patents are often overly broad or obvious, so even a clean reverse engineering attempt may fall afoul of many circuit implementation or even software emulation technique patents.

Transmeta was the last successful non-licensee to battle Intel over x86 patents because Transmeta had built up a powerful defensive patent portfolio.

See: https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/intel-and-the-x86-architecture-a-legal-perspective
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