By: Montaray Jack (none.delete@this.none.org), November 29, 2019 4:00 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
dmcq (dmcq.delete@this.fano.co.uk) on November 28, 2019 10:20 am wrote:
> none (none.delete@this.none.com) on November 28, 2019 12:57 am wrote:
> > Montaray Jack (none.delete@this.none.org) on November 27, 2019 11:03 pm wrote:
> > > none (none.delete@this.none.com) on April 21, 2019 6:36 am wrote:
> > > > Travis Downs (travis.downs.delete@this.gmail.com) on April 20, 2019 7:24 pm wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > > Exceptions who actually do litigate frequently include WARF who, by virtue of not making CPUs themselves
> > > > > don't need to worry about (b), although it is not exactly clear to be how they deal with (a), i.e.,
> > > > > how they know a particular patented technique is being used. Perhaps observation of behavior is enough,
> > > > > for patents written "behaviorally" rather than wrt a specific hardware implementation.
> > > >
> > > > There might not be mutual destruction but I for sure will never consider anyone from
> > > > Wisconsin for a job in my team.
> > >
> > > You do know that Seymour Cray was from Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin. Don't you?
> >
> > I wasn't clear but I think it was obvious I was talking about University of Wisconsin. And
> > Cray didn't go there.
> >
> > Anyway even if a student is brilliant the risk is too big that his work might be tainted by
> > what he did while at University of Wisconsin-Madison, aggravating the danger of those
> > patent trolls coming after you. So I stand by my previous stance: no one from UW-Madison
> > in my team even if he is the reincarnation of Seymour Cray.
>
> Can't say I'm a fan of the many patents around on things anyone would automatically think of if they
> came across a problem. I see it though as the nasty side of a balancing act - I'm for the basic idea
> if it doesn't last too long and I don't think patents do. Just thank God Disney didn't get involved
> and they don't last till the nth generation. The length of copyright is just far too long and wrong
> wrong wrong. On the other hand I would strengthen registered trade mark protection and allow it to
> be used for things like a character in a story so an author can write follow ups without worry about
> mimics even if copyright on their earliest book using the character had expired. ~~~~
It's not just University of Wisconsin doing this, Lots of Universities are treating it like a business. Probably not enforceable, it would be hard to treat a student's invention as a work for hire especially if he paid tuition without grants from the university. Absurd legalistic BS from lawyers and business administrator who run universities today.
> none (none.delete@this.none.com) on November 28, 2019 12:57 am wrote:
> > Montaray Jack (none.delete@this.none.org) on November 27, 2019 11:03 pm wrote:
> > > none (none.delete@this.none.com) on April 21, 2019 6:36 am wrote:
> > > > Travis Downs (travis.downs.delete@this.gmail.com) on April 20, 2019 7:24 pm wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > > Exceptions who actually do litigate frequently include WARF who, by virtue of not making CPUs themselves
> > > > > don't need to worry about (b), although it is not exactly clear to be how they deal with (a), i.e.,
> > > > > how they know a particular patented technique is being used. Perhaps observation of behavior is enough,
> > > > > for patents written "behaviorally" rather than wrt a specific hardware implementation.
> > > >
> > > > There might not be mutual destruction but I for sure will never consider anyone from
> > > > Wisconsin for a job in my team.
> > >
> > > You do know that Seymour Cray was from Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin. Don't you?
> >
> > I wasn't clear but I think it was obvious I was talking about University of Wisconsin. And
> > Cray didn't go there.
> >
> > Anyway even if a student is brilliant the risk is too big that his work might be tainted by
> > what he did while at University of Wisconsin-Madison, aggravating the danger of those
> > patent trolls coming after you. So I stand by my previous stance: no one from UW-Madison
> > in my team even if he is the reincarnation of Seymour Cray.
>
> Can't say I'm a fan of the many patents around on things anyone would automatically think of if they
> came across a problem. I see it though as the nasty side of a balancing act - I'm for the basic idea
> if it doesn't last too long and I don't think patents do. Just thank God Disney didn't get involved
> and they don't last till the nth generation. The length of copyright is just far too long and wrong
> wrong wrong. On the other hand I would strengthen registered trade mark protection and allow it to
> be used for things like a character in a story so an author can write follow ups without worry about
> mimics even if copyright on their earliest book using the character had expired. ~~~~
It's not just University of Wisconsin doing this, Lots of Universities are treating it like a business. Probably not enforceable, it would be hard to treat a student's invention as a work for hire especially if he paid tuition without grants from the university. Absurd legalistic BS from lawyers and business administrator who run universities today.
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