Intel's roadmap

By: Alberto (git.delete@this.git.it), May 15, 2019 6:58 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on May 13, 2019 11:04 am wrote:
> Alberto (git.delete@this.git.it) on May 13, 2019 9:44 am wrote:
> > Laurent (anon.delete@this.anon.com) on May 13, 2019 8:37 am wrote:
> > > Intel released their roadmap for the next few years.
> > >
> > > https://www.nextplatform.com/2019/05/13/intel-gives-moores-law-a-makeover/
> > > https://www.anandtech.com/show/14312/intel-process-technology-roadmap-refined-nodes-specialized-technologies
> > >
> > > How credible is it?
> > >
> > > Best quote: “And what I have found in discussions with many of you is the perception
> > > that Intel’s process innovation has slowed down during this time.”
> >
> > As lithography slowed down, Intel slowed down.
> > As new nodes not allowed higher clocks anymore, Intel slowed down.
> >
> > Anyway Ice Lake Ep apperently will be online early than expected sometime in the first half
> > next year. A nice speedup i have to say.
>
> What do you base this "nice speedup" on? Do numbers exist anywhere
> for single-threaded speedup (ie how much faster does gcc go)?
> I've seen nothing of that form from Intel and the (true? who knows? but they look
> plausible, not an obvious fake) numbers on GeekBench are not impressive.
>
> https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/11493813?baseline=11585297
> https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/13056449?baseline=11585297
>
> This is presumably early silicon. The peak frequency (2.3GHz) will surely rise. But
> the IPC seems unlikely to rise, and it seems to be a very minor improvement on *Lake;
> not a great leap forward, and nothing close to the similarly clocked A12X.

I mean a nice speedup in the introduction of a 64 cores server SKU.

Obviously we will never see an A12X clocked at 4+GHz :). It do not run, simple and plain; the cache is not thinked to run so fast, same apples to integer and FP units. Almost sure with this IPC the Apple cpu become a small furnace running fast (but it can't....).

Anyway this is GeekSh**bench only. So irrelevant.

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Intel's roadmapLaurent2019/05/13 07:37 AM
  Intel's roadmapAlberto2019/05/13 08:44 AM
    Intel's roadmapblue2019/05/13 09:26 AM
    Intel's roadmapMaynard Handley2019/05/13 10:04 AM
      Intel's roadmapAdrian2019/05/13 12:15 PM
      Actually not bad for IntelChester Lam2019/05/14 04:26 PM
        Actually not bad for IntelMaynard Handley2019/05/14 05:33 PM
          Actually not bad for IntelChester Lam2019/05/14 07:52 PM
            Easily, just grab the LN2... (NT)blue2019/05/14 09:41 PM
            Actually not bad for IntelMaynard Handley2019/05/14 10:32 PM
              Application mattersChester Lam2019/05/15 02:15 AM
      Intel's roadmapAlberto2019/05/15 06:58 AM
        Intel's roadmapnone2019/05/15 07:25 AM
        Intel's roadmapChester Lam2019/05/15 07:32 AM
          Sh*** is Sh** foreverAlberto2019/05/15 07:47 AM
            Sh*** is Sh** forevernone2019/05/15 08:05 AM
              benchmarks...Chester Lam2019/05/15 08:33 AM
                benchmarks...none2019/05/15 09:09 AM
                  benchmarks...Chester Lam2019/05/15 03:51 PM
                    benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/16 12:10 PM
                      benchmarks...chester lam2019/05/16 02:20 PM
                        benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/16 02:28 PM
                          benchmarks...chester lam2019/05/16 03:00 PM
                            benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/17 02:39 AM
                              benchmarks...Chester Lam2019/05/17 03:54 AM
                                benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/17 10:52 AM
                                  because per-core perf has stagnatedchester lam2019/05/17 12:55 PM
                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedNathan2019/05/17 01:54 PM
                                      because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/17 09:39 PM
                                        because per-core perf has stagnatedchester lam2019/05/19 05:32 PM
                                          because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/19 08:09 PM
                                            because per-core perf has stagnatedFoo_2019/05/19 11:58 PM
                                              because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 12:48 AM
                                                because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/20 02:12 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 03:23 AM
                                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 06:07 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/20 03:28 AM
                                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 06:15 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatednone2019/05/20 03:41 AM
                      benchmarks...Maynard Handley2019/05/16 03:35 PM
                        benchmarks...dmcq2019/05/20 07:15 AM
                    benchmarks...Maxwell2019/05/16 09:47 PM
            Sh*** is Sh** foreverAnon2019/05/15 08:43 AM
    Intel's roadmapDoug S2019/05/13 12:24 PM
      Intel's roadmapwumpus2019/05/14 06:52 AM
      Intel's roadmapAlberto2019/05/15 07:10 AM
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