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By: chester lam (lamchester.delete@this.gmail.com), May 16, 2019 3:20 pm
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Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar) on May 16, 2019 1:10 pm wrote:
> Chester Lam (lamchester.delete@this.gmail.com) on May 15, 2019 4:51 pm wrote:
> > If Apple brought a 4 GHz A12X-like CPU to the desktop market,
> > they might get some decent market share. We can dream right?
>
>
> Why? How big do you think the market is of "people who need more performance on the desktop"?
> You say it doesn't make a difference for mobile because performance is already "good enough"
> there, but I'd argue performance on the desktop has been "good enough" for over a decade.
> Desktops got a huge jump in real world performance by switching to SSDs, for most people
> that difference was more noticeable than if they had a CPU clocked at 20 GHz.

"people who need more performance on desktop" is a pretty big market. Here are some examples:

  • Video encoding - this can take hours with a high quality preset

  • Compiling large projects - can take 15-20 minutes on a 3.6 GHz quad core haswell

  • Rendering - can take hours to get enough raytracing samples

  • Gaming - some badly optimized games like ESO feel noticeably smoother when I overclock to 4.5 GHz (up from 3.6 GHz stock)

  • Stitching pictures to create a panorama - the alignment process can take minutes


Of these, rendering and video encoding can scale across a large number of cores. Compilation is a mix of single threaded and multi threaded perf. Sometimes it can use all eight threads, sometimes only 2-3. Gaming is also a mix, but single threaded perf really matters.

SSDs improve loading times, but they won't make a CPU-bound program any faster.
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        Intel's roadmapnone2019/05/15 08:25 AM
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            Sh*** is Sh** forevernone2019/05/15 09:05 AM
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                    benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/16 01:10 PM
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                            benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/17 03:39 AM
                              benchmarks...Chester Lam2019/05/17 04:54 AM
                                benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/17 11:52 AM
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                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedNathan2019/05/17 02:54 PM
                                      because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/17 10:39 PM
                                        because per-core perf has stagnatedchester lam2019/05/19 06:32 PM
                                          because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/19 09:09 PM
                                            because per-core perf has stagnatedFoo_2019/05/20 12:58 AM
                                              because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 01:48 AM
                                                because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/20 03:12 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 04:23 AM
                                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 07:07 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/20 04:28 AM
                                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 07:15 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatednone2019/05/20 04:41 AM
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