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By: Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar), May 17, 2019 10:52 am
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Chester Lam (lamchester.delete@this.gmail.com) on May 17, 2019 4:54 am wrote:
> > My point is that the market for "needs more speed than they can currently get
> > on the desktop" is a niche market, no matter how many little niches you list.
> >
> When practically everyone falls into one of those little niches, does it really matter
> that each niche is small? And I don't think those "niches" are as small as you think.
> > Why do you think the replacement cycle for desktops has been lengthened so much? Many people run them
> > until they break or the OS goes out of support. 20 years ago people would upgrade every 2-3 years because
> > they weren't fast enough for anybody. Now they are fast enough for at least 90% of the market.
> Just maybe, the desktop CPU market has been completely stagnant. What's the latest intel uarch in 2015? Skylake.
> What's the latest intel uarch in 2019? Skylake. Hmmm...I wonder why people aren't upgrading...hmmmmmmm
>
> Also, if everyone were using storage-bound programs as you suggested earlier, people would have stopped at
> dual core 2.3 ghz athlons from a decade ago. Those are plenty fast for email, web surfing, and word processing.
> So maybe, just maybe, the desktop market is still around because people do things that need cpu power.


Some people did stop at dual core Athlons from a decade ago. Some people do things that need CPU power, but most people buy faster PCs because they need a new PC, and they what is for sale at the time.

It is like 4K TVs, tons of people are buying 4K TVs but there is very little demand for 4K content out there - almost everything being watched on 4K TVs is HD or even SD. People mostly are buying because they want a new TV to go bigger or because their old TV crapped out. Beyond a certain size you can't get HDTVs anymore, so you will get a 4K TV whether you need it or not. But looking the meteoric rise in sales of 4K TVs over the last couple years and inferring a huge demand for "4K" would be a mistake.
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        Actually not bad for IntelMaynard Handley2019/05/14 05:33 PM
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            Actually not bad for IntelMaynard Handley2019/05/14 10:32 PM
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        Intel's roadmapnone2019/05/15 07:25 AM
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            Sh*** is Sh** forevernone2019/05/15 08:05 AM
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                benchmarks...none2019/05/15 09:09 AM
                  benchmarks...Chester Lam2019/05/15 03:51 PM
                    benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/16 12:10 PM
                      benchmarks...chester lam2019/05/16 02:20 PM
                        benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/16 02:28 PM
                          benchmarks...chester lam2019/05/16 03:00 PM
                            benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/17 02:39 AM
                              benchmarks...Chester Lam2019/05/17 03:54 AM
                                benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/17 10:52 AM
                                  because per-core perf has stagnatedchester lam2019/05/17 12:55 PM
                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedNathan2019/05/17 01:54 PM
                                      because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/17 09:39 PM
                                        because per-core perf has stagnatedchester lam2019/05/19 05:32 PM
                                          because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/19 08:09 PM
                                            because per-core perf has stagnatedFoo_2019/05/19 11:58 PM
                                              because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 12:48 AM
                                                because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/20 02:12 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 03:23 AM
                                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 06:07 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/20 03:28 AM
                                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 06:15 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatednone2019/05/20 03:41 AM
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                        benchmarks...dmcq2019/05/20 07:15 AM
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