By: dmcq (, May 20, 2019 7:15 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Maynard Handley ( on May 16, 2019 4:35 pm wrote:
> Doug S ( on May 16, 2019 1:10 pm wrote:
> > Chester Lam ( on May 15, 2019 4:51 pm wrote:
> > > If Apple brought a 4 GHz A12X-like CPU to the desktop market,
> > > they might get some decent market share. We can dream right?
> >
> >
> > Why? How big do you think the market is of "people who need more performance on the desktop"?
> > You say it doesn't make a difference for mobile because performance is already "good enough"
> > there, but I'd argue performance on the desktop has been "good enough" for over a decade.
> > Desktops got a huge jump in real world performance by switching to SSDs, for most people
> > that difference was more noticeable than if they had a CPU clocked at 20 GHz.
> That's short-sighted. SW and HW move together. No-one's writing anything that needs 2x today's performance to
> be useful because it's a hell of a gamble that that 2x (single-threaded) performance will be available soon.
> Our desktops are certainly nothing close to what an IDEAL desktop would be. For example, I should
> be able to query my desktop "what was that article I read a while ago about how brain predictive
> coding provides models for autism and schizophrenia" and get something useful.
> This requires a lot more than just today's searches (local or web). It requires, eg, constant tracking and
> remembering of everything I'm interacting with (local and remote documents), some natural language understanding,
> maybe even constant eye tracking to see which parts of each document I found especially useful.
> And sure, part of what's needed for this to really work is on the NN side (ie specialized HW, not generic
> CPU), and part is larger faster storage. But it may well also need a faster CPU tying it all together.
> (Yeah, yeah, we all understand that half of you see this and immediately starting
> throwing out words like privacy and intrusive and big brother. Whatever.
> *I* want something like this. You can substitute whatever it is you want your computers
> to do, which primarily appears to be playing video games at higher quality.)

Well yes I'd really like something a thousand times faster rather than just 2x. Well actually a supercomputer but no-ones going to give me one for my personal projects :-(
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Intel's roadmapLaurent2019/05/13 07:37 AM
  Intel's roadmapAlberto2019/05/13 08:44 AM
    Intel's roadmapblue2019/05/13 09:26 AM
    Intel's roadmapMaynard Handley2019/05/13 10:04 AM
      Intel's roadmapAdrian2019/05/13 12:15 PM
      Actually not bad for IntelChester Lam2019/05/14 04:26 PM
        Actually not bad for IntelMaynard Handley2019/05/14 05:33 PM
          Actually not bad for IntelChester Lam2019/05/14 07:52 PM
            Easily, just grab the LN2... (NT)blue2019/05/14 09:41 PM
            Actually not bad for IntelMaynard Handley2019/05/14 10:32 PM
              Application mattersChester Lam2019/05/15 02:15 AM
      Intel's roadmapAlberto2019/05/15 06:58 AM
        Intel's roadmapnone2019/05/15 07:25 AM
        Intel's roadmapChester Lam2019/05/15 07:32 AM
          Sh*** is Sh** foreverAlberto2019/05/15 07:47 AM
            Sh*** is Sh** forevernone2019/05/15 08:05 AM
              benchmarks...Chester Lam2019/05/15 08:33 AM
                benchmarks...none2019/05/15 09:09 AM
                  benchmarks...Chester Lam2019/05/15 03:51 PM
                    benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/16 12:10 PM
                      benchmarks...chester lam2019/05/16 02:20 PM
                        benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/16 02:28 PM
                          benchmarks...chester lam2019/05/16 03:00 PM
                            benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/17 02:39 AM
                              benchmarks...Chester Lam2019/05/17 03:54 AM
                                benchmarks...Doug S2019/05/17 10:52 AM
                                  because per-core perf has stagnatedchester lam2019/05/17 12:55 PM
                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedNathan2019/05/17 01:54 PM
                                      because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/17 09:39 PM
                                        because per-core perf has stagnatedchester lam2019/05/19 05:32 PM
                                          because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/19 08:09 PM
                                            because per-core perf has stagnatedFoo_2019/05/19 11:58 PM
                                              because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 12:48 AM
                                                because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/20 02:12 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 03:23 AM
                                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 06:07 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatedAdrian2019/05/20 03:28 AM
                                                    because per-core perf has stagnatedMichael S2019/05/20 06:15 AM
                                                  because per-core perf has stagnatednone2019/05/20 03:41 AM
                      benchmarks...Maynard Handley2019/05/16 03:35 PM
                        benchmarks...dmcq2019/05/20 07:15 AM
                    benchmarks...Maxwell2019/05/16 09:47 PM
            Sh*** is Sh** foreverAnon2019/05/15 08:43 AM
    Intel's roadmapDoug S2019/05/13 12:24 PM
      Intel's roadmapwumpus2019/05/14 06:52 AM
      Intel's roadmapAlberto2019/05/15 07:10 AM
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