AMD Zen 2 (ie, Ryzen 3000 line) benchmarks public

By: Jason Creighton (noreply.delete@this.example.com), July 7, 2019 3:05 pm
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Ryzen 3000, the first line of processors to have the Zen 2 uarch, had its review embargo lifted today.

I thought the Anandtech review was the most comprehensive, and see also their earlier article on Zen 2 microarchitecture

Main takeaways for me:

* In terms of performance, it basically seems to live up to the hype: 10-13% IPC uplift relative to Zen+, now arguably beating Intel in IPC, although of course Intel still has higher clocks.
* AMD has doubled down on multiple dies strategy: Processors are still built out of dies containing two core complexes of 4 cores each, for 8 cores to the CPU die. In addition, there is now a separate die built on GF 12 nm process that contains the memory controller.
* L3 cache size doubled, now 16 MB per core complex. L3 access is not unified, so each core really only has 16 MB available, even if the overall amount of L3 in the processor is greater.
* Floating point unit widths doubled to 256-bit. IIRC, there are two FMUL and two FADD units, so I think this puts the throughput at 8 DP multiplies + 8 DP adds per clock, on par with recent Intel desktop offerings.
* DRAM latency got slightly worse relative to Zen 1, presumably due to the IO die, but according to Anandtech the big L3s help hide this cost.

Overall I feel this is good news for AMD, although I wonder how things will shake out once Intel gets their 10 nm process in production. Also seems like, going forward, it will be the case for a while that AMD will have worse memory latency and a less unified cache design. I wonder if this is ultimately going to hurt them or if they will be able to find ways to stay competitive while working around these disadvantages that are somewhat fundamental to their architecture.
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