By: Linus Torvalds (torvalds.delete@this.linux-foundation.org), August 13, 2019 11:12 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Jouni Osmala (fname.sname.delete@this.aalto.fi) on August 13, 2019 4:00 am wrote:
>
> Level1 did last fall a video for which they configured the best possible configuration
> for what they thought was the best solution for his publicly available preferences.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvuDrrFHrhQ
Heh.
That's actually a lot more effort (and money) than I have wanted to spend.
Also, I've had bad experiences with watercooling (in other peoples machines, so I've never done it myself) where the pump noise and even gurgling turned me off. That's from long ago, maybe things have improved, and maybe the machine I saw was just badly done. But it's kept me from even trying to be fancy.
So I just used the opposite approach: I historically tried to limit my CPU's to 65W and simply not really need much active cooling at all. I later upped that to 95W and spent a bit more effort on better fans etc.
(That's obviously the usual "TDP" wattage, not actual power use under top load, but you get the picture).
But even there I tend to limit myself. I'm currently using just a Noctua NH-U12S CPU cooler, because the 140mm double-fan setup I had in my previous build was just such a pain. Everything got very tight around the CPU, and so when I did my i9-9900K build I decided I'd scale back just to make the build simpler.
There are two 120mm fans - front intake and rear exhaust - that do run at some low rpm constantly, but that I can't hear unless I open the door to the case and listen for it. The other fans basically don't run at all when the system is idle. Not on the CPU, not on the PSU. There is zero background noise in my office, and I cannot hear my machine unless I put my ear to it.
It's not perfect. With the smaller CPU fan, it does get noisier than I'd like when it's actually under full load. Still quiet, mind you, but I can hear it.
But compared to the Level1 setup in that youtube thing, my cooling solution really is "just don't use components that need too much cooling".
That's why I think a 3950X would work fine with my simplistic model. Keep things simple by not pushing the envelope too much.
Linus
>
> Level1 did last fall a video for which they configured the best possible configuration
> for what they thought was the best solution for his publicly available preferences.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvuDrrFHrhQ
Heh.
That's actually a lot more effort (and money) than I have wanted to spend.
Also, I've had bad experiences with watercooling (in other peoples machines, so I've never done it myself) where the pump noise and even gurgling turned me off. That's from long ago, maybe things have improved, and maybe the machine I saw was just badly done. But it's kept me from even trying to be fancy.
So I just used the opposite approach: I historically tried to limit my CPU's to 65W and simply not really need much active cooling at all. I later upped that to 95W and spent a bit more effort on better fans etc.
(That's obviously the usual "TDP" wattage, not actual power use under top load, but you get the picture).
But even there I tend to limit myself. I'm currently using just a Noctua NH-U12S CPU cooler, because the 140mm double-fan setup I had in my previous build was just such a pain. Everything got very tight around the CPU, and so when I did my i9-9900K build I decided I'd scale back just to make the build simpler.
There are two 120mm fans - front intake and rear exhaust - that do run at some low rpm constantly, but that I can't hear unless I open the door to the case and listen for it. The other fans basically don't run at all when the system is idle. Not on the CPU, not on the PSU. There is zero background noise in my office, and I cannot hear my machine unless I put my ear to it.
It's not perfect. With the smaller CPU fan, it does get noisier than I'd like when it's actually under full load. Still quiet, mind you, but I can hear it.
But compared to the Level1 setup in that youtube thing, my cooling solution really is "just don't use components that need too much cooling".
That's why I think a 3950X would work fine with my simplistic model. Keep things simple by not pushing the envelope too much.
Linus
