By: Jouni Osmala (fname.sname.delete@this.aalto.fi), August 14, 2019 12:09 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Linus Torvalds (torvalds.delete@this.linux-foundation.org) on August 13, 2019 12:12 pm wrote:
> Jouni Osmala (fname.sname.delete@this.aalto.fi) on August 13, 2019 4:00 am wrote:
> >
> > Level1 did last fall a video for which they configured the best possible configuration
> > for what they thought was the best solution for his publicly available preferences.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvuDrrFHrhQ
>
> Heh.
>
> That's actually a lot more effort (and money) than I have wanted to spend.
I think that all you have to do is ask if level1 would make same with next gen threadripper, and afterwards put anywhere public thank you with a link to build video, and accept the delivery. They would ask the companies whose parts they have pretested to be good enough quality to sponsor the parts. And everyone involved would actually make a lot more money from that than what they spend, and people spending effort would do something similar anyway and this would make their work feel more significant.
> Also, I've had bad experiences with watercooling (in other peoples machines, so I've never done it myself)
> where the pump noise and even gurgling turned me off. That's from long ago, maybe things have improved,
> and maybe the machine I saw was just badly done. But it's kept me from even trying to be fancy.
Well quick googling for AIO gurgling, noise seems to be dependent on fine details of how it is installed, and for some people it happens 4-5 seconds in a week, and some people for couple of minutes after the boot up and many people it just doesn't happen with fully integrated cooler. And pumps have probably become quieter as measured numbers of noise oriented liquid cooling systems seems to be below what air coolers can get. Anyway I think youtube channel LinusTechTips could get/make an CPU radiator that would function as case side panel also and have it air cooled with large low rpm fan.
In e-sports there are millions moving for publicity of gaming products. Any positive statement/usage by you is more valuable for workstation and server manufacturers than top teams for gaming products. And I definitely would like to see more workstation level products that fit your noise requirements. The competition between AMD and Intel to get their workstation CPU:s to your main system could actually accelerate that development, as long as it is anywhere published that you chose to use the new system / chose not to because noise considerations. If it would get out of hand, good solution is to put a yearly competition where some volunteer would screen the entries pick top 2/3 and get a one that you rejected as reward for his efforts, and that person could find some sponsors for the shipping fees/expenses so that other loosing entries could be distributed to Linux developers.
> Jouni Osmala (fname.sname.delete@this.aalto.fi) on August 13, 2019 4:00 am wrote:
> >
> > Level1 did last fall a video for which they configured the best possible configuration
> > for what they thought was the best solution for his publicly available preferences.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvuDrrFHrhQ
>
> Heh.
>
> That's actually a lot more effort (and money) than I have wanted to spend.
I think that all you have to do is ask if level1 would make same with next gen threadripper, and afterwards put anywhere public thank you with a link to build video, and accept the delivery. They would ask the companies whose parts they have pretested to be good enough quality to sponsor the parts. And everyone involved would actually make a lot more money from that than what they spend, and people spending effort would do something similar anyway and this would make their work feel more significant.
> Also, I've had bad experiences with watercooling (in other peoples machines, so I've never done it myself)
> where the pump noise and even gurgling turned me off. That's from long ago, maybe things have improved,
> and maybe the machine I saw was just badly done. But it's kept me from even trying to be fancy.
Well quick googling for AIO gurgling, noise seems to be dependent on fine details of how it is installed, and for some people it happens 4-5 seconds in a week, and some people for couple of minutes after the boot up and many people it just doesn't happen with fully integrated cooler. And pumps have probably become quieter as measured numbers of noise oriented liquid cooling systems seems to be below what air coolers can get. Anyway I think youtube channel LinusTechTips could get/make an CPU radiator that would function as case side panel also and have it air cooled with large low rpm fan.
In e-sports there are millions moving for publicity of gaming products. Any positive statement/usage by you is more valuable for workstation and server manufacturers than top teams for gaming products. And I definitely would like to see more workstation level products that fit your noise requirements. The competition between AMD and Intel to get their workstation CPU:s to your main system could actually accelerate that development, as long as it is anywhere published that you chose to use the new system / chose not to because noise considerations. If it would get out of hand, good solution is to put a yearly competition where some volunteer would screen the entries pick top 2/3 and get a one that you rejected as reward for his efforts, and that person could find some sponsors for the shipping fees/expenses so that other loosing entries could be distributed to Linux developers.
