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Article: Escape From the Planet of x86
By: Marc M. (marcmfs.delete@this.hotmail.com), June 21, 2003 6:06 am
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Bill Todd (billtodd@metrocast.net) on 6/20/03 wrote:
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>Paul DeMone (pdemone@igs.net) on 6/20/03 wrote:
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>>David Wang (dwang@realworldtech.com) on 6/20/03 wrote:
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>>[..]
>>>>While it was difficult to pin him down to specific claims of SPECint superiority,
>>>>he said "It's not exactly part of my job, but it's closely enough related so that
>>>>I can get the skinny. I can't get into any details, but I feel pretty safe about
>>>>Madison outperforming any competitive CPU in 2003, with the possible exception of
>>>>Power5."
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>>From Intel's point of view IPF competes against the remaining high end RISC players not
>>low end white box x86 servers.
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>While I can't really speak for Intel's point of view in this respect, I can certainly
>speak for Arcadian's (which, of course, is the subject of this sub-thread) - because
>the text of his that I quoted was in *direct* response to a question I asked:
>
>"Ah - so you already know that Madison will turn in SPECint2K_base scores above
>1202 (let alone above 1300 - the lowest 64-bit estimate I've seen for Hammer)?
>If not, exactly what are you saying (since there's never seemed to be too much question
>that Itanic would retain its lead in SPECfp)?"
>
>Don't you ever get tired of parading your incompetence, Paul?
>
>- bill

Whoa... no need for name calling especially since Paul's statement wasn't ment as a personal attack to you. It was ment as an observation that I think he thought pertinant regardless of if it is or isn't.

I like both of your view points, and you have to admit that even if Paul did say it a little to "personaly" about the good versus evil, that you do see the world a bit polarized between IPF and the rest of the world. And while in many ways I tend to agree with your feeling and logic about it, I do have to tip my hat at Intel and how its managed to pull its chestnuts from the fire. (even if HP's technology is what is better to date, so you can say that HP, who btw is my boogie man, has done a good job, and yes i know its been a collaborative effort).

Marc M.
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