Linus Torvalds (torvalds.delete@this.linux-foundation.org) on January 6, 2020 12:28 pm wrote:
> Gionatan Danti (g.danti.delete@this.assyoma.it) on January 6, 2020 12:13 pm wrote:
> >
> > However, I have a question about a recent kernel change that broke an important 3rd party
> > module: zfs. I don't want absolutely to flame, and feel free to not reply if think so.
>
> Note that "we don't break users" is literally about user-space
> applications, and about the kernel I maintain.
>
> If somebody adds a kernel module like ZFS, they are on their own. I can't
> maintain it, and I can not be bound by other peoples kernel changes.
>
> And honestly, there is no way I can merge any of the ZFS efforts until I get an official
> letter from Oracle that is signed by their main legal counsel or preferably by Larry Ellison
> himself that says that yes, it's ok to do so and treat the end result as GPL'd.
>
> Other people think it can be ok to merge ZFS code into the kernel and that the module interface
> makes it ok, and that's their decision. But considering Oracle's litigious nature, and
> the questions over licensing, there's no way I can feel safe in ever doing so.
>
> And I'm not at all interested in some "ZFS shim layer" thing either that some people seem
> to think would isolate the two projects. That adds no value to our side, and given Oracle's
> interface copyright suits (see Java), I don't think it's any real licensing win either.
>
> Don't use ZFS. It's that simple. It was always more of a buzzword than anything
> else, I feel, and the licensing issues just make it a non-starter for me.
>
> The benchmarks I've seen do not make ZFS look all that great. And as far as I can
> tell, it has no real maintenance behind it either any more, so from a long-term
> stability standpoint, why would you ever want to use it in the first place?
>
> Linus

Please, Linus, stop being arrogant and ignorant, read this release note and tell us why you think ZFS is more of a buzzword and has no real maintenance.

https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/releases/tag/zfs-0.8.0

Btrfs, which is just less than 4 years younger than ZFS, still fails to achieve the kind of stability and features that ZFS users have been enjoying for the last 14 years. Btrfs has failed, admit it.

Not going out of your way to support ZFS is one thing. That we completely perfectly understand. Going out of your way to deliberately break ZFS is another thing. The kernel developers are being assholes for doing that!