By: David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com), April 19, 2020 7:27 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Dummond D. Slow (mental.delete@this.protozoa.us) on April 18, 2020 9:27 am wrote:
> another anon (not.delete@this.person.com) on April 17, 2020 11:13 pm wrote:
> >
> > Well, AMD's Renoir 4C/4T Ryzen 3 4300U has a base frequency of 2700Mhz at 15W. If they felt like
> > playing in the 28W space directly, one would think they might be able to have a fairly compelling
> > product with either way higher base clocks or many more cores/threads at a similar power level.
> > So calling Coffee Lake best in class might not be the best description any more.
> >
>
> AMD has 8 cores 16 threads at 3.0 Ghz base and 4.3 GHz (or perhaps 4.4
> not advertised, it's not clear) maximum boost in 35W (Ryzen 9 4900HS).
>
> It's the same design as their 15W chips just with scaled up power draw limits, so yeah.
I have no interest in 8C chips for client systems. 4C/8T is pretty much optimal.
This gets at the fundamental problem for AMD. More cores is valuable for some servers, and almost no client systems.
As an educated consumer, I want a small number of fast cores.
David
> another anon (not.delete@this.person.com) on April 17, 2020 11:13 pm wrote:
> >
> > Well, AMD's Renoir 4C/4T Ryzen 3 4300U has a base frequency of 2700Mhz at 15W. If they felt like
> > playing in the 28W space directly, one would think they might be able to have a fairly compelling
> > product with either way higher base clocks or many more cores/threads at a similar power level.
> > So calling Coffee Lake best in class might not be the best description any more.
> >
>
> AMD has 8 cores 16 threads at 3.0 Ghz base and 4.3 GHz (or perhaps 4.4
> not advertised, it's not clear) maximum boost in 35W (Ryzen 9 4900HS).
>
> It's the same design as their 15W chips just with scaled up power draw limits, so yeah.
I have no interest in 8C chips for client systems. 4C/8T is pretty much optimal.
This gets at the fundamental problem for AMD. More cores is valuable for some servers, and almost no client systems.
As an educated consumer, I want a small number of fast cores.
David
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| This was a comparison to put the "high clock" in context | Dummond D. Slow | 2020/04/20 08:55 AM |