BT remains hard and unsolved in general

By: Anne O. Nymous (not.delete@this.real.address), June 23, 2020 12:58 am
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hobold (hobold.delete@this.vectorizer.org) on June 23, 2020 1:07 am wrote:
> Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on June 22, 2020 11:57 pm wrote:
>
> > I've posted the wikipedia PPC->Intel transition page here like 10 times. I've explained
> > many more times than that how this transition will follow that exact same script. And
> > yet people refuse to listen up till the minute that the announcements occur.
> >
> Apple's history of transitions, both m68k -> PowerPC, and PowerPC -> x86, did follow the script
>
> 1. have a complicated and unreliable translator that works good
> enough for stage presentations and very simple programs
>
> 2. quickly abandon the translation layer before it ever learns to deal with the hard cases
>
> Been there, observed that. Twice.
>
> You know how the saying goes: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo."

Yes, but with MS and Adobe on board (in addition to Apple's own software) to go ARM-native soon, quite a number of users will never ever have to actually use the translation layer, so that is great customer handling and management of expectations.
I believe Maynards assessment of this is spot on. This is there to ease customer concerns pro-actively, just as the intel-for-several more years and universal2 announcement served to convince customers that apple's current x86 offerings are still worth buying today and tomorrow.
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        BT remains hard and unsolved in generalhobold2020/06/23 12:07 AM
          BT remains hard and unsolved in generalAnne O. Nymous2020/06/23 12:58 AM
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