By: Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org), June 23, 2020 8:04 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar) on June 23, 2020 2:00 am wrote:
> Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on June 22, 2020 11:48 pm wrote:
> > nobody in particular (nobody.delete@this.nowhe.re) on June 22, 2020 8:41 pm wrote:
> > > Why are you yelling at someone who agrees with you?
> >
> > You consider telling someone facts and context to be "yelling" at them?
> >
> > I have no idea what Doug S saw of the (public) Keynote and of the (less public, have to be a registered
> > dev) State of the Union afternoon presentation. And so I pointed out to him that there's the reality of
> > what Apple said (multiple times) a few hours ago -- or there's the usual crowd on the internet.
> >
>
>
> I haven't watched it at all yet. I have a link to it and will check it out later this week when I
> have time. For now I'm just going on the information I've read from others who have watched it.
>
> And I won't see the 'registered dev' thing at all since I'm not one. I'm sure there are
> multiple articles out there with the highlights from that, maybe someone has a link to
> one of the better ones that lets those of us without access to it see what was said?
Most relevant to this forum was a constant repetition (maybe 4 times in different contexts!) of the theme
- we love the mac, it's not going away
- the mac is not an iPad and is used differently
- we will keep the mac as open as possible without being irresponsible regarding security
To put it differently, something like Catalyst is API, it's not UI. The (constantly evolving) goal is to unify whatever can be unified (eg visual appearance, API) but NOT to unify when that compromises functionality or platform integrity.
In other words "if you internet people want to continue to claim that we've no interest in the mac, that we want to replace macoS with iOS, that we want lock down the mac; well we can't stop your craziness, but don't pretend we didn't tell you the actual roadmap".
> Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on June 22, 2020 11:48 pm wrote:
> > nobody in particular (nobody.delete@this.nowhe.re) on June 22, 2020 8:41 pm wrote:
> > > Why are you yelling at someone who agrees with you?
> >
> > You consider telling someone facts and context to be "yelling" at them?
> >
> > I have no idea what Doug S saw of the (public) Keynote and of the (less public, have to be a registered
> > dev) State of the Union afternoon presentation. And so I pointed out to him that there's the reality of
> > what Apple said (multiple times) a few hours ago -- or there's the usual crowd on the internet.
> >
>
>
> I haven't watched it at all yet. I have a link to it and will check it out later this week when I
> have time. For now I'm just going on the information I've read from others who have watched it.
>
> And I won't see the 'registered dev' thing at all since I'm not one. I'm sure there are
> multiple articles out there with the highlights from that, maybe someone has a link to
> one of the better ones that lets those of us without access to it see what was said?
Most relevant to this forum was a constant repetition (maybe 4 times in different contexts!) of the theme
- we love the mac, it's not going away
- the mac is not an iPad and is used differently
- we will keep the mac as open as possible without being irresponsible regarding security
To put it differently, something like Catalyst is API, it's not UI. The (constantly evolving) goal is to unify whatever can be unified (eg visual appearance, API) but NOT to unify when that compromises functionality or platform integrity.
In other words "if you internet people want to continue to claim that we've no interest in the mac, that we want to replace macoS with iOS, that we want lock down the mac; well we can't stop your craziness, but don't pretend we didn't tell you the actual roadmap".