Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on August 11, 2020 2:59 pm wrote:
> Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on August 11, 2020 2:25 pm wrote:
> > Jan Olšan (mental.delete@this.protozoa.us) on August 11, 2020 1:53 pm wrote:
> > > Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on August 11, 2020 1:31 pm wrote:
> > > > Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on August 11, 2020 12:51 pm wrote:
> > > > > Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on August 11, 2020 11:00 am wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://nuviainc.com/blog
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Various sites, e.g. Anandtech, are commenting on this, but that is the primary link.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well they use GB5 as their CPU metric, so clearly they're a bunch of phony armchair architects...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's your only problem?
> > > > Does it means that you believe that they will deliver GB5-ST=2300
> > > > relatively soon? And within 3W envelop, nonetheless?
> > > > If it's true then they are going to become crazy rich crazy quickly.
> > >
> > > Well, they nowhere say it is relatively soon (or do they and I missed it?).
> > >
> >
> > They didn't, but it sounds like they see Arm Inc. Neoverse core that will come right
> > after Zeus as their direct competitor. Which means less than 2 years from now.
> >
> > > Gotta remember it's marketing propaganda, so there are all sorts of caveats,
> > > like comparing different OSes (known problem with GB), phone vs. notebook SoCs,
> > > using non-SMT sku for Zen 2 (dunno if they measure Geekbench ST or MT).
> > >
> >
> > The numbers on the graph look like GB5-ST. E.g. highest i7-8750H scores are indeed close to 1100.
>
> Of course they're GB5 ST. I can't believe people are even raising such a ridiculous complaint!
> The same head-in-the-sand that we saw around Apple, then Graviton2, now migrated to Nuvia.
>

Same attitude, different excuses. When MT performance was compared in the past, the argument was that single thread was the only what really matters. Now that single thread is compared, I am reading idiocies as

"it looks to me like the focus on a single core is a little dishonest, Intel/AMD designs need to scale up to 64 cores while Apple/Qualcomm is 2-4 big cores" :-)