"New ISA Prefix Fusion"

By: anon2 (anon.delete@this.anon.com), August 18, 2020 6:04 pm
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Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on August 18, 2020 3:42 pm wrote:
> dmcq (dmcq.delete@this.fano.co.uk) on August 18, 2020 1:00 pm wrote:
> > hobold (hobold.delete@this.vectorizer.org) on August 18, 2020 11:58 am wrote:
> > > Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on August 18, 2020 4:48 am wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > BTW, Power ISA™ Version 3.1 manual is here https://ibm.ent.box.com/s/hhjfw0x0lrbtyzmiaffnbxh2fuo0fog0
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the link!
> > >
> > > Looks like they are really serious about autovectorization. Quite a few SIMD
> > > bits to round out functionality, and more interoperation between scalar and
> > > SIMD. They even have "vector centrifuge" now ... that is ... interesting.
> >
> > Gah! You can't split a prefixed instruction over a 64 byte boundary.
> > I wonder why they felt it necessary to impose that.
>
> For precisely the reasons I discussed!
> If you have that restriction, then (along with other things being
> easier) an instruction is never split across two cache lines.
> Which means pre-decode can mark instructions as pairs.
> Which means that, yes, it IS possible to track a branch into the middle of a pair
> of instructions and behave appropriately (which, IMHO, should be to fault).
>

Exactly as I said here https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=194561&curpostid=194635 (if that is indeed the reason for it -- predecode does seem likely).

Interesting how quickly the x86 fan club are to insist none of the failings of x86 are actually failings at all, clearly without having thought through even the very basics.
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