Look at the ATI acquisition

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anon (an.delete@this.n.net) on October 28, 2020 11:31 am wrote:
> After AMD bought ATI for US$ 5 billion they spent years hyping "AMD Fusion", APUs,
> HSA, Streams, OpenCL, etc, but it was too much hype for too little results.
> "APU" means "Accelerated Processing Unit" but most of what it "accelerates" are just games,
> and they are still slower than dedicated videocards despite all the hype to the contrary,
> they also have worse drivers compared to Nvidia and lack something like CUDA.
>
> So, after looking at what happened to ATI after its acquisition by
> AMD, I'm not automatically optimist about the Xilinx acquisition.

From the viewpoint of PC motherboard layout, APUs are slower than discrete GPUs because of the physical dimensions of DDR4 memory modules. Also, DDR4 memory modules have simpler controllers than for example NVMe SSDs.

DDR5: The dimensions of DDR5 memory modules are the same as DDR4, so although DDR5 will improve iGPU performance (by my estimates: by about 40% when upgrading from DDR4-3200 to DDR5-4800) the number of DDR5 memory modules in a PC will be the same as with DDR4. It is probable that dual-channel DDR5 will remain to be the maximum number of memory channels in all desktop PCs and notebooks with APUs. On the other hand, socket LGA 1700 has more pins than LGA 1200.

-atom
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