Consider Zen4 + Versal

By: Paul (pavel.delete@this.noa-labs.com), November 3, 2020 2:19 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Mark (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com) on October 27, 2020 6:42 pm wrote:
>
> An avenue to pursue if trying to make sense of this merger is to consider how Versal ACAP chips (and/or
> chiplets) could be combined with Zen4 chiplets to build a server product that had very good x86 performance
> as well as very good *integrated* Deep Learning performance. The Deep Learning performance could
> be very low latency, too (in contrast to NVidia GPUs hooked up to CPUs via PCIe).
>
> Will this work? Is this even AMD's plan? I don't know.
>
> It is also possible that AMD is just using overpriced AMD stock to purchase product diversification.
>

Will this work? Technically, yes, market wise, no.

The market for GPUs outside of gaming is too small, and they will not be gaining much by releasing a product that will be considered an inferior offering to a dedicated card from the start.

Making a desktop/mobile APU reaching parity with a dedicated mid-tier GPU would be a completely different story.

I think the industry heads greatly exaggerate the buying capacity of the gaming market, and equally so the enthusiasm outside of desktop space.

Not every person buying video cards is into "X7R33M G4M1NG," or even into gaming as such. There are quite a number of uses of consumer grade cards for things other than gaming.

And outside of the desktop space, it's simple. Just to few uses, and they don't make much money. There was nothing close to the "explosive" growth that was prophesized.
< Previous Post in ThreadNext Post in Thread >
TopicPosted ByDate
AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Björn Ragnar Björnsson2020/10/27 03:03 PM
  Consider Zen4 + VersalMark2020/10/27 06:42 PM
    Consider Zen4 + VersalBjörn Ragnar Björnsson2020/10/27 07:23 PM
      Funny Moneyme2020/10/28 10:14 AM
        Funny MoneyDummond D. Slow2020/10/28 04:32 PM
          FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldMark Roulo2020/10/28 07:15 PM
            FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldDummond D. Slow2020/10/28 07:27 PM
              GPU chiplets burn a lot of power!David Kanter2020/10/28 07:40 PM
                GPU chiplets burn a lot of power!hobold2020/10/29 04:24 AM
                GPU chiplets burn a lot of power!Dummond D. Slow2020/10/29 11:25 AM
                GPU chiplets burn a lot of power!juanrga2020/10/30 02:24 AM
            FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldJames2020/10/29 01:17 AM
              FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldme2020/10/29 04:47 AM
                FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldMegabytephreak2020/10/29 05:58 AM
                  FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldanonymou52020/10/29 08:52 AM
                    FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldMegabytephreak2020/10/29 10:16 AM
                      FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldMark Roulo2020/10/29 03:02 PM
                        FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldAndreas2020/10/30 06:26 AM
                    FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldHoward Chu2020/10/29 05:25 PM
                      FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldMichael S2020/10/30 12:34 AM
                        FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldAndreas2020/10/30 06:29 AM
                          FPGA chiplets are around 10 years oldMichael S2020/11/03 01:40 AM
    Consider Zen4 + VersalPaul2020/11/03 02:19 AM
      Consider Zen4 + VersalAnon2020/11/03 04:08 AM
        Consider Zen4 + VersalPaul2020/11/03 01:52 PM
          Consider Zen4 + VersalJukka Larja2020/11/04 05:46 AM
            Consider Zen4 + Versalme2020/11/04 07:42 AM
              Consider Zen4 + VersalDavid Hess2020/11/12 06:46 PM
  Intel is focusing (and getting money) by divesting flash biz; AMD is spreading itself around moreanon2020/10/27 07:52 PM
    Intel is focusing (and getting money) by divesting flash biz; AMD is spreading itself around moredefaltluser2020/10/28 01:46 PM
      Intel is focusing (and getting money) by divesting flash biz; AMD is spreading itself around moreanon2020/10/28 02:43 PM
        Intel is focusing (and getting money) by divesting flash biz; AMD is spreading itself around moreMark Roulo2020/10/28 07:09 PM
          Intel is focusing (and getting money) by divesting flash biz; AMD is spreading itself around moredefaltluser2020/11/02 05:21 PM
        Ryzen 5000 + Radeon 6000 = HSAish?blue2020/10/30 10:52 AM
          Ryzen 5000 + Radeon 6000 = HSAish?hobold2020/10/31 05:34 AM
            Ryzen 5000 + Radeon 6000 = HSAish?Wes Felter2020/10/31 08:50 AM
              Ryzen 5000 + Radeon 6000 = HSAish?hobold2020/10/31 11:21 AM
            Ryzen 5000 + Radeon 6000 = HSAish?David Hess2020/11/12 06:51 PM
              Ryzen 5000 + Radeon 6000 = HSAish?Adrian2020/11/13 05:14 AM
  AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Etienne Lorrain2020/10/28 01:16 AM
  Look at the ATI acquisitionanon2020/10/28 10:31 AM
    Look at the ATI acquisitionwho2020/10/28 12:07 PM
      Look at the ATI acquisitionhobold2020/10/28 12:44 PM
        Look at the ATI acquisitionUngo2020/10/28 03:53 PM
    Look at the ATI acquisition2020/10/28 03:04 PM
      Look at the ATI acquisitionDavid Hess2020/10/30 09:38 AM
    Look at the ATI acquisitionDavid Hess2020/10/30 09:41 AM
  AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Rob Thorpe2020/10/28 11:40 AM
    AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Etienne Lorrain2020/10/29 08:52 AM
      Why people think Xilinx is an FPGA companyMark Roulo2020/10/29 12:18 PM
        Why people think Xilinx is an FPGA companyMichael S2020/10/30 12:25 AM
      AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Dan Fay2020/10/29 01:43 PM
      AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Ricardo B2020/10/30 05:33 PM
        AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Ungo2020/10/31 04:12 AM
    AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Ricardo B2020/10/30 06:02 PM
      AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Michael S2020/10/31 08:53 AM
        AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Ricardo B2020/10/31 05:46 PM
        AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Doug S2020/11/01 08:45 AM
          AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?David Kanter2020/11/02 12:53 PM
            AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Mr. Camel2020/11/02 01:14 PM
              AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Doug S2020/11/02 01:51 PM
                AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?David Kanter2020/11/02 02:07 PM
                  AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Mr. Camel2020/11/03 12:19 PM
                  AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Paul2020/11/03 01:55 PM
                AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Groo2020/11/02 02:31 PM
                  AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Brett2020/11/02 04:17 PM
                  AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Doug S2020/11/03 08:21 AM
                AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?Adrian2020/11/03 02:32 AM
                  Asus ZenBook 13 UX325 and 14 UX425Michael S2020/11/03 03:35 AM
                    Asus ZenBook 13 UX325 and 14 UX425Adrian2020/11/03 06:27 AM
                      Asus ZenBook 13 UX325 and 14 UX425Michael S2020/11/03 08:04 AM
        AMD - Xilinx merger. Potential technical synergies?who2020/11/02 12:00 PM
Reply to this Topic
Name:
Email:
Topic:
Body: No Text
How do you spell avocado?