Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on November 3, 2020 3:35 am wrote:
> Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on November 3, 2020 2:32 am wrote:
> > Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar) on November 2, 2020 1:51 pm wrote:
> > > Mr. Camel (no.delete@this.thanks.com) on November 2, 2020 1:14 pm wrote:
> > > > With Apple helping to fund TSMC process dev, it seems like TSMC
> > > > is likely to maintain its process lead for many years to come.
> > > >
> > > > Intel may have had a chance to win Apple's business but blew it. They probably
> > > > feel pretty stupid now that they won't have access to Apple's coffers.
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps, but Intel would still have had to execute. No one has ever suggested lack of
> > > investment was the reason for Intel's failure with 10nm. Once they got stuck Apple would
> > > have been looking for alternatives - designing an SoC for both Intel fabs and TSMC fabs
> > > would be a cheap hedge for them (and something they already did with the A9)
> >
> >
> > The incapacity of Intel to manufacture what they are designing begins to worry me more and more.
> >
> > When I have seen their triumphant presentation of Tiger Lake at Hot Chips, I have believed
> > that, after so many years, they might have finally found how to fix their 10-nm process.
> >
> > Unfortunately, 3 months later, even if many devices with Tiger Lake have been announced,
> > at least in Europe, I have not succeeded to notice anyone of them being sold anywhere.
> >
>
> Out of interest, I talked to Dell reseller and he confirmed.
> Dell New Vostro series 5301 and 5402 appears on the web site, but they don't accept orders.
>
> But then I took a look at what's available in the retail and it appears different.
> Asus ZenBook 13 UX325 with i5-1135G7 is available right now in the store less
> than 3km from my office. Same for i7-1165G7. Same for ZenBook 14 UX425.
>
> So, it seems, if I want TGL for work, I'd have to wait until February, or late
> January at best, but for home with my own money I can get it right now.
>


Actually, you are right, thanks for the info.

Now, searching for these specific ASUS models, I have also found of few of them in some shops nearby me.

However, at least here and now, they are extremely overpriced, in my opinion.

For example, the Asus ZenBook 13 UX325 with i5-1135G7 & 8 GB + 512 GB is here USD 1730 (including taxes), while similar ASUS laptops with Ryzen 5 Renoir are less than half of that price.