Question to Torvalds

By: Jukka Larja (roskakori2006.delete@this.gmail.com), January 13, 2021 5:24 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on January 12, 2021 11:07 am wrote:
> Jukka Larja (roskakori2006.delete@this.gmail.com) on January 12, 2021 10:15 am wrote:
> >
> > Average user doesn't run anything in VM. They don't install Linux to Mac or Windows
> > PC. They don't even know what a VM is, so I'm not sure why you bring them to this.
>
> There are degrees of average. I'm thinking for example of STEM users who are uninterested in tech politics,
> they just know that to use some specialty computational app, they run it in a Linux VM, likely one provided
> by Parallels or VMWare so it feels and is maintained just like any other mac app.

Yeah, obviously. It's pretty relevant to know what you mean by it.

I have no idea what STEM is supposed to refer to here and quick googling didn't help, but sure, some group of people need a Linux VM and don't benefit from booting to Linux on M1 Mac. I would hardly call them average without any context.

> > It was mentioned in another message that using a VM does mean some extra administration.
> > I think that's pretty big thing. That's why I think it's relevant to ask, why wouldn't
> > you run the OS you want to use on bare metal, if it's possible.
>
> Again, that's the value provided by VMWare or Parallels.

What value? I'm not talking about someone who needs to run two or more OSes on same hardware, where value of virtualization is obvious.

> At every stage of this thread the issue was constantly derailed by an insistence
> that I was being confrontational.

Well, you started with "The page explains everything except the most important question: why bother?". Hard to be much more confrontional than that.

Larger problem is that you apparently once again presumed that everyone else is a mind reader and got offended because people answered your questions instead of what you wanted to ask.

-JLarja
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