By: Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org), November 16, 2020 8:44 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
anonymou5 (no.delete@this.spam.com) on November 16, 2020 7:18 pm wrote:
> > Apple is not going to release a TDP for the M1 or its laptops. Thats just life.
> > The best you are ever going to get is backing out that number from results like how fast the battery
> > goes down while executing Cinebench. Everything we've seen suggests that's somewhere between 10 and
> > 20W (though it's still unclear what will happen when you also crank the GPU [and NPU?] up to 11).
> > I'm unclear what results you think can't be understood today but will
> > become clear once you have an exact TDP for the MBA or the MBP.
>
> The "i7-1060NG7 CPU @ 1.20GHz" Icelake in the 2020 MBA that I'm typing on
> is configured to 10 W TDP, allowing a few seconds of excursion to ~12 W,
> and showing spikes to ~18 W during load changes (think one sample flash).
> Also, it is configured to not exceed 100 C, which does make sense to me.
>
> The new M1-based model doesn't have a fan. So it will be interesting. :)
>
> 20 sustained, without a fan? I doubt it.
For MBA yes. We are discussing both MBA and MBP (and mac mini which might be configured slightly higher than MBA because of less battery concern?)
> > Apple is not going to release a TDP for the M1 or its laptops. Thats just life.
> > The best you are ever going to get is backing out that number from results like how fast the battery
> > goes down while executing Cinebench. Everything we've seen suggests that's somewhere between 10 and
> > 20W (though it's still unclear what will happen when you also crank the GPU [and NPU?] up to 11).
> > I'm unclear what results you think can't be understood today but will
> > become clear once you have an exact TDP for the MBA or the MBP.
>
> The "i7-1060NG7 CPU @ 1.20GHz" Icelake in the 2020 MBA that I'm typing on
> is configured to 10 W TDP, allowing a few seconds of excursion to ~12 W,
> and showing spikes to ~18 W during load changes (think one sample flash).
> Also, it is configured to not exceed 100 C, which does make sense to me.
>
> The new M1-based model doesn't have a fan. So it will be interesting. :)
>
> 20 sustained, without a fan? I doubt it.
For MBA yes. We are discussing both MBA and MBP (and mac mini which might be configured slightly higher than MBA because of less battery concern?)