By: Dummond D. Slow (, November 20, 2020 10:03 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Wilco ( on November 19, 2020 4:58 am wrote:
> Jon Masters ( on November 18, 2020 11:12 pm wrote:
> > Maynard Handley ( on November 18, 2020 10:12 pm wrote:
> > > Oh ARM, didn’t anyone in marketing think that maybe releasing this info so close to
> > > Apple was not a good idea! I missed this, like almost everyone else, apparently.
> > >
> > > Apart from that mis-step, ARM’s kinda sorta M1 equivalent. Of course with lower
> > > ST a performance, meaning presumably that we might start seeing laptops and tablets
> > > with 6 and 8 large cores to at least try to look better along some dimensions.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I'm super excited to see what kinds of laptops and devices might appear with a 78C.
> > Do I think it'll catch up to Apple? No. But I think it'll be very good progress.
> It doesn't need to - a 3GHz 8-core Cortex-A78C should beat a 4900HS on single-threaded and
> get close on multi-threaded at less than half the power. And that's a great place to be.
> Wilco

Note that AMD might have Zen 3 designs next year with higher single thread (and a bit higher multithread) performance, unless it turns out the mobile Ryzen 5000 is Zen 2. (Some SKUs seem to be refresh, but some are reportedly Zen 3 - weirdest/most insane product naming scheme in history, possibly, if this is confirmed).

ARM designs have some lag between announcement and shipping in SoCs, so I suspect stuff will land after the AMD thing.

I hope there will be a better selection of Windows notebooks, that platform is growing so slowly and it's a pity. Perhaps if there were MediaTek devices too and not just Qualcomm which are kinda too pricy.

How is the situation WRT standards with these devices? Are they fully UEFI/ACPI/SBSA and so on, can you count on future operating systems working out of the box, or do you need to be afraid that Qualcomm or other SoC vendor will suddenly stop software updates in 3 years and the device will end up stranded on old version of Windows 10?
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