By: Dummond D. Slow (mental.delete@this.protozoa.us), November 25, 2020 6:13 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Chester (lamchester.delete@this.gmail.com) on November 25, 2020 3:49 pm wrote:
> Dummond D. Slow (mental.delete@this.protozoa.us) on November 25, 2020 8:29 am wrote:
> > Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on November 21, 2020 7:14 am wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > At TechSpot, they have run a set of benchmarks on all Zen generations
> > > (1, 1+, 2, 3) and Comet Lake (i.e. Skylake microarchitecture).
> > >
> > >
> > > What is interesting is that, as much as possible, the only differences
> > > in the 5 systems were in the core microarchitecture.
> > >
> > >
> > > The clock frequency was fixed at 4 GHz for all systems, all had 8-core CPUs,
> > > all had the same memory modules, the same coolers, the same GPUs.
> > >
> > > Therefore these show the evolution of the IPC, as well as this is possible.
> > >
> > > (Until the launch of Rocket Lake, there are no newer Intel
> > > CPUs that could be compared in identical conditions.)
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.techspot.com/article/2143-ryzen-5000-ipc-performance/
> > >
> >
> > Seems that most of the responses are various arguments so dunno if many people are actually
> > interested, but there are also IPC tests from The Stilts. He uses many non-standard programs
> > for it so it might be intereseting as an addition to standard benchmarks.
> >
> > https://imgur.com/a/3B8QcEG
> >
> > It should all be single thread, locked to 4.0 GHz tests. Average number is here:
> >
> >
> > MTS = Zen 2, VMR = Zen 3, CML = Comet Lake/Skylake
> >
> > Description here.
>
> I'm gonna criticize this test for the opposite reason juanrga criticized the other one: this person
> didn't match memory speeds. Intel was tested with DDR4-2933, AMD was tested with DDR4-3200. When
> comparing architectures, it's best to keep variables constant as much as possible.
>
BTW for Matisse and Vermeer the supported speed is the same (DDR-3200) and the same was used for both so the Zen 3 IPC boost is not influenced by this, only Skylake's IPC is (but Skylake is not so interesting, is it).
>
> So I find the voltage scaling graph far more interesting:
>
>
> Zen 3 is able to hit 4.5 GHz at just above 1.1V - way better than Zen 2.
> Dummond D. Slow (mental.delete@this.protozoa.us) on November 25, 2020 8:29 am wrote:
> > Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on November 21, 2020 7:14 am wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > At TechSpot, they have run a set of benchmarks on all Zen generations
> > > (1, 1+, 2, 3) and Comet Lake (i.e. Skylake microarchitecture).
> > >
> > >
> > > What is interesting is that, as much as possible, the only differences
> > > in the 5 systems were in the core microarchitecture.
> > >
> > >
> > > The clock frequency was fixed at 4 GHz for all systems, all had 8-core CPUs,
> > > all had the same memory modules, the same coolers, the same GPUs.
> > >
> > > Therefore these show the evolution of the IPC, as well as this is possible.
> > >
> > > (Until the launch of Rocket Lake, there are no newer Intel
> > > CPUs that could be compared in identical conditions.)
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.techspot.com/article/2143-ryzen-5000-ipc-performance/
> > >
> >
> > Seems that most of the responses are various arguments so dunno if many people are actually
> > interested, but there are also IPC tests from The Stilts. He uses many non-standard programs
> > for it so it might be intereseting as an addition to standard benchmarks.
> >
> > https://imgur.com/a/3B8QcEG
> >
> > It should all be single thread, locked to 4.0 GHz tests. Average number is here:
> >

> >
> > MTS = Zen 2, VMR = Zen 3, CML = Comet Lake/Skylake
> >
> > Description here.
>
> I'm gonna criticize this test for the opposite reason juanrga criticized the other one: this person
> didn't match memory speeds. Intel was tested with DDR4-2933, AMD was tested with DDR4-3200. When
> comparing architectures, it's best to keep variables constant as much as possible.
>
BTW for Matisse and Vermeer the supported speed is the same (DDR-3200) and the same was used for both so the Zen 3 IPC boost is not influenced by this, only Skylake's IPC is (but Skylake is not so interesting, is it).
>
> So I find the voltage scaling graph far more interesting:
>

>
> Zen 3 is able to hit 4.5 GHz at just above 1.1V - way better than Zen 2.
Topic | Posted By | Date |
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Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Adrian | 2020/11/21 08:14 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | juanrga | 2020/11/21 10:22 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/21 03:49 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Andrei F | 2020/11/22 05:08 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/22 09:33 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | none | 2020/11/23 01:59 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | none | 2020/11/23 02:01 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | none | 2020/11/23 02:01 AM |
No... | David Kanter | 2020/11/23 08:16 AM |
No... | Chester | 2020/11/23 03:15 PM |
No... | Foo_ | 2020/11/24 03:34 AM |
No... | Chester | 2020/11/25 12:45 AM |
No... | Per Hesselgren | 2020/11/25 01:57 AM |
No... | Adrian | 2020/11/25 04:21 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Doug S | 2020/11/23 01:03 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/23 03:26 PM |
Programs people use | Foo_ | 2020/11/24 03:43 AM |
Programs people use | Jukka Larja | 2020/11/24 07:07 AM |
Cinebench is the new Dhrystone :) (NT) | none | 2020/11/25 01:10 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | juanrga | 2020/11/24 08:38 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Andrei F | 2020/11/24 05:47 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/25 12:32 AM |
Questionable thoughts | benchmark critic | 2020/11/25 08:41 AM |
Questionable thoughts | Chester | 2020/11/25 03:14 PM |
Questionable thoughts | none | 2020/11/26 01:14 AM |
Links? | benchmark critic | 2020/11/26 09:48 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Groo | 2020/11/25 01:48 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/25 04:36 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Groo | 2020/11/26 02:46 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/26 07:32 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Groo | 2020/11/27 10:27 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/29 07:16 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Groo | 2020/11/29 09:56 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/29 04:41 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Rayla | 2020/11/26 07:46 AM |
Benchmarks | David Kanter | 2020/11/26 10:05 AM |
Benchmarks | blaine | 2020/11/26 01:04 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Per Hesselgren | 2020/11/24 10:11 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/25 12:42 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | juanrga | 2020/11/22 07:09 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/22 09:53 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | juanrga | 2020/11/23 01:16 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/23 02:27 PM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | juanrga | 2020/11/24 08:25 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | Adrian | 2020/11/24 11:51 AM |
Interesting Zen IPC benchmarks | juanrga | 2020/11/26 04:52 AM |
The Stilt's Zen 3 IPC benchmarks | Dummond D. Slow | 2020/11/25 09:29 AM |
The Stilt's Zen 3 IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/25 04:49 PM |
The Stilt's Zen 3 IPC benchmarks | Dummond D. Slow | 2020/11/25 05:58 PM |
The Stilt's Zen 3 IPC benchmarks | Doug S | 2020/11/26 09:19 AM |
The Stilt's Zen 3 IPC benchmarks | Dummond D. Slow | 2020/11/25 06:13 PM |
The Stilt's Zen 3 IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/26 11:24 AM |
The Stilt's Zen 3 IPC benchmarks | itsmydamnation | 2020/11/26 03:06 PM |
The Stilt's Zen 3 IPC benchmarks | Chester | 2020/11/26 07:10 PM |
The Stilt's Zen 3 IPC benchmarks | Doug S | 2020/11/27 04:17 PM |
The Stilt's Zen 3 IPC benchmarks | juanrga | 2020/11/26 05:10 AM |