Windows and kernel time

By: Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com), November 27, 2020 3:34 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Andrey (andrey.semashev.delete@this.gmail.com) on November 27, 2020 2:56 am wrote:
> Etienne Lorrain (etienne_lorrain.delete@this.yahoo.fr) on November 27, 2020 1:21 am wrote:
> >
> > Someone ever tried to replace (Linux) page zeroing by the processor, by reading a NVME page
> > from a file pre-written with all zero - should be quite fast with NVME on PCIe 3 or 4?
> > Maybe time to require a new immuable file /tmp/zero the size of a huge page?
> >
>
> From Wikipedia:
>
> PCIe 3.0 x4: 3.938 GB/s
> PCIe 4.0 x4: 7.877 GB/s
> PCIe 5.0 x4: 15.754 GB/s
> DDR4-3200: 25.6 GB/s
> DDR5-4800: 38.4 GB/s
>
> Multiply RAM speeds by the number of channels supported by the CPU. Note that
> those DDR ratings are entry level, there are much faster options available.
>
> Yes, you could potentially free the CPU for doing some other stuff while
> memory is being cleared, but the latency would increase N-fold.
>

IMHO, the correct question is "Why force zeros to main DRAM at all?".
What's wrong with zeroing page in cache and relaying on normal cache evictions for taking care of the rest?
Combined L3 bandwidth on Ryzen 3950X (4 L3s, dual-channel DDR4) could easily be 10x of bandwidth of main memory. And the chance that the page will be read by the same CCD at least once before evicted is high.
Sounds to me like forcing zeros to RAM is sort of old micro-optimization that since then became a pessimization.
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                                        The macOS performance deficitAndrey2020/12/01 02:03 AM
                                          I take it no one here has any real storage admin experienceDoug S2020/12/01 09:39 AM
                                            I take it no one here has any real storage admin experienceGionatan Danti2020/12/01 09:58 AM
                                            I take it no one here has any real storage admin experienceAndrey2020/12/01 12:40 PM
                                            I take it no one here has any real storage admin experienceDavid Hess2020/12/02 04:03 AM
                                              I take it no one here has any real storage admin experienceDoug S2020/12/02 10:57 AM
                                                I take it no one here has any real storage admin experienceDavid Hess2020/12/02 03:46 PM
                                        The macOS performance deficitSimon Farnsworth2020/12/01 03:50 AM
                                        The macOS performance deficitRicardo B2020/12/01 11:23 AM
                        The macOS performance deficitanon22020/11/29 01:20 PM
                  The macOS performance deficitDoug S2020/11/29 09:18 AM
                    The macOS performance deficitLinus Torvalds2020/11/29 11:03 AM
                      The macOS performance deficitHoward Chu2020/11/30 09:07 AM
                        The macOS performance deficitLinus Torvalds2020/11/30 11:05 AM
                          The macOS performance deficitrwessel2020/11/30 11:54 AM
                          The macOS performance deficitanon2020/11/30 03:05 PM
                          The macOS performance deficitHoward Chu2020/11/30 07:57 PM
                            The macOS performance deficitLinus Torvalds2020/11/30 10:34 PM
                              The macOS performance deficitBrett2020/11/30 11:34 PM
                                The macOS performance deficitBrett2020/12/01 01:47 PM
                                  The macOS performance deficitLinus Torvalds2020/12/01 02:57 PM
                                    The macOS performance deficitPatrick Schlüter aka gallier22020/12/02 07:31 AM
                                    The macOS performance deficitDoug S2020/12/02 11:07 AM
                                      The macOS performance deficitAdrian2020/12/03 02:50 AM
                                        The macOS performance deficitLinus Torvalds2020/12/03 12:28 PM
                                          The macOS performance deficitAdrian2020/12/03 12:40 PM
                                    The macOS performance deficitBrett2020/12/02 02:49 PM
                                The macOS performance deficitDavid Hess2020/12/01 08:17 PM
                              BitKeeperanon2020/12/01 12:03 AM
                                BitKeeperanon2020/12/01 12:28 AM
                                charlatansanon22020/12/01 02:57 AM
                                  charlatansMichael S2020/12/01 04:30 AM
                                    charlatansanon22020/12/01 05:38 AM
                                      charlatansrwessel2020/12/01 06:18 AM
                                      version controlMichael S2020/12/02 11:50 AM
                                        version controlLinus Torvalds2020/12/02 01:18 PM
                                          Cheap commits are a huge git winCarson2020/12/08 02:05 AM
                                        version controlanon22020/12/02 08:43 PM
                                BitKeeperLinus Torvalds2020/12/01 11:35 AM
                                  BitKeeperanon2020/12/01 03:42 PM
                                    BitKeeperanonymou52020/12/01 05:26 PM
                                    Larry? (NT)anon22020/12/01 08:25 PM
                                      Larry McVoy, the lead developer of bitkeeper (NT)Carson2020/12/08 02:07 AM
                              The macOS performance deficitDoug S2020/12/01 09:42 AM
                            The macOS performance deficitrwessel2020/12/01 05:51 AM
                              The macOS performance deficitanon2020/12/01 02:49 PM
                        LMDB transactionsanon2020/11/30 02:58 PM
                          LMDB transactionsHoward Chu2020/11/30 07:29 PM
                            LMDB transactionsanon2020/11/30 11:44 PM
                              LMDB transactionsHoward Chu2020/12/01 12:44 PM
                                LMDB transactionsanon2020/12/01 02:33 PM
                                  LMDB transactionsHoward Chu2020/12/02 08:52 AM
                                    LMDB transactionsHoward Chu2020/12/02 08:55 AM
                                      LMDB transactionsAnon2020/12/02 10:54 AM
                        Fossil SCM (SQLite based) works pretty well (NT)anonymous22020/11/30 03:50 PM
                      The macOS performance deficitAnon2020/12/01 11:39 PM
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