By: Phil995511 (phil995511.delete@this.gmail.com), December 30, 2020 5:22 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Foo_ (foo.delete@this.nomail.com) on December 30, 2020 2:50 am wrote:
> Dummond D. Slow (mental.delete@this.protozoa.us) on December 29, 2020 6:00 pm wrote:
> >
> > Socket AM4 will not go higher than 16 cores I am afraid. The package and the IO chiplet is only developed
> > for use with two CPU chiplets and one has 8 cores. It is not totally impossible to do more but AMD
> > simply didn't want to do this and nothing suggests they are planning such thing secretly.
>
> Also it is probably not wise to feed more than 16 high-performance cores using only two channels of memory.
>
Too bad, I would like them not to market at least a 24 cores and / or a 32 cores for AM4 socket...
As I pointed out above, the Ryzen 9 5950X lacks 16 PCI-E lanes to make Crossfire / SLI @ PCI-E 4 X16, a CPU with more cores could have compensated for this lack.
And then the thermal envelope of the Ryzen 9 5950X is much better mastered than that of the Threadripper 2950X Processor (105 Watts vs 180 Watts). If they developed a Ryzen 9 59xx 24 core CPU with the same energy efficiency at +/- 160 Watts vs 280 Watts for the Ryzen ™ Threadripper ™ 3960X Processor that would be really great...
There are also 2 fanless chipset motherboards for AM4 available in the market, which does not exist for TRX4 ;-(
Threadripper = High price, high heat => compulsory liquid cooling, motherboard with non-fanless chipset.
For now, the AM4 platform is more attractive to me than the TRX4 platform. Maybe AMD would have been better off releasing an AM5 platform a few months ago instead of pushing, as you seem to be saying, the AM4 platform to its final limits, especially if that prevents them from releasing 24 or 32 cores CPU's for AM4 chipset...
Regards.
> Dummond D. Slow (mental.delete@this.protozoa.us) on December 29, 2020 6:00 pm wrote:
> >
> > Socket AM4 will not go higher than 16 cores I am afraid. The package and the IO chiplet is only developed
> > for use with two CPU chiplets and one has 8 cores. It is not totally impossible to do more but AMD
> > simply didn't want to do this and nothing suggests they are planning such thing secretly.
>
> Also it is probably not wise to feed more than 16 high-performance cores using only two channels of memory.
>
Too bad, I would like them not to market at least a 24 cores and / or a 32 cores for AM4 socket...
As I pointed out above, the Ryzen 9 5950X lacks 16 PCI-E lanes to make Crossfire / SLI @ PCI-E 4 X16, a CPU with more cores could have compensated for this lack.
And then the thermal envelope of the Ryzen 9 5950X is much better mastered than that of the Threadripper 2950X Processor (105 Watts vs 180 Watts). If they developed a Ryzen 9 59xx 24 core CPU with the same energy efficiency at +/- 160 Watts vs 280 Watts for the Ryzen ™ Threadripper ™ 3960X Processor that would be really great...
There are also 2 fanless chipset motherboards for AM4 available in the market, which does not exist for TRX4 ;-(
Threadripper = High price, high heat => compulsory liquid cooling, motherboard with non-fanless chipset.
For now, the AM4 platform is more attractive to me than the TRX4 platform. Maybe AMD would have been better off releasing an AM5 platform a few months ago instead of pushing, as you seem to be saying, the AM4 platform to its final limits, especially if that prevents them from releasing 24 or 32 cores CPU's for AM4 chipset...
Regards.