By: David Hess (davidwhess.delete@this.gmail.com), January 11, 2021 4:26 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
rwessel (rwessel.delete@this.yahoo.com) on January 7, 2021 6:47 pm wrote:
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> A problem with your approach is the non-linear addressing of physical memory (although it's not that bad,
> a shift and add in the addressing path). The overhead is a bigger issue. Doing nine physical memory words
> for eight addressable words doesn't reduce the overhead, although a more complex scheme might. Crossing
> DRAM boundaries array is going to be a hit as well, a non-trivial number of 64-byte cache line reads are
> going to now cross some sort of boundary that will end up needing two separate read operations.
>
> A bigger problem is that you now can't even do the ECC check before reading all nine words.
> So any optimized cache line loads (critical word first, etc.), become impossible.
>
> Of course those are all performance issues, and may be a suitable tradeoff in some cases.
Some processors already do that to support better than SEC/DED with a 64/72 bit word. I no longer remember the exact details but AMD's Phenom processors can use multiple adjacent 64/72 bit words from a single memory channel to support 128/144 (and/or 256/288?) bit ECC correction.
>
> A problem with your approach is the non-linear addressing of physical memory (although it's not that bad,
> a shift and add in the addressing path). The overhead is a bigger issue. Doing nine physical memory words
> for eight addressable words doesn't reduce the overhead, although a more complex scheme might. Crossing
> DRAM boundaries array is going to be a hit as well, a non-trivial number of 64-byte cache line reads are
> going to now cross some sort of boundary that will end up needing two separate read operations.
>
> A bigger problem is that you now can't even do the ECC check before reading all nine words.
> So any optimized cache line loads (critical word first, etc.), become impossible.
>
> Of course those are all performance issues, and may be a suitable tradeoff in some cases.
Some processors already do that to support better than SEC/DED with a 64/72 bit word. I no longer remember the exact details but AMD's Phenom processors can use multiple adjacent 64/72 bit words from a single memory channel to support 128/144 (and/or 256/288?) bit ECC correction.