By: Dummond D. Slow (mental.delete@this.protozoa.us), January 22, 2021 7:02 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on January 8, 2021 8:31 am wrote:
> Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on January 8, 2021 8:28 am wrote:
> > Dummond D. Slow (mental.delete@this.protozoa.us) on January 7, 2021 10:43 am wrote:
> > > Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on January 2, 2021 2:45 am wrote:
> > > >
> > > > However all the i7-1185G7 scores from the GB5 database are
> > > > much lower, lower than the good scores of the slower
> > > > i7-1165G7, so I believe that all the few existing laptop models that have i7-1185G7 suck badly and we will
> > > > see the actual speed of Tiger Lake @ 4.8 GHz only when the
> > > > Intel NUC with it will be available, in a few months
> > > > (even Intel is expected to launch first an Intel NUC with i7-1165G7, unlike in the past when they used only
> > > > the top speed for themselves; so they must still have serious yield problems with the top SKU).
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > It seems Intel's architecture is capable of much more than the 1550-1600 scores show,
> > > too. Apparently desktop Rocket Lake can hit north of 1800 on 5.0 GHz (with faster SKUs
> > > possible, 11700K is probably second-best SKU), and that is still not on Linux. Of course,
> > > might be skewed by crypto results a bit, would have to compare subscores.
> > >
> > > https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=11700k
> > >
> >
> > The benchmarks that have been done on Rocket Lake samples show that it has an IPC slightly lower
> > than Zen 3, but because the top Rocket Lake SKU is expected to reach a higher clock frequency, of
> > 5.2 ... 5.3 GHz, it is pretty certain that after its launch, at end March, it will have the fastest
> > single-thread performance of any non-overclocked CPU, with ST GB5 between 1800 and 1850.
> >
> > However the tests published until now have confirmed that even with its huge power
> > consumption Rocket Lake will be far from the multi-threaded performance of Zen 3.
> >
>
>
> Sorry I have written wrongly, Rocket Lake is expected to reach ST GB5 of 1900 ... 1950.
>
> 1800 ... 1850 is what is typical for the already existing Ryzen 9 59xx.
>
>
>
Yes, it seems so, there is now a Geekbench result where Intel Core i9-11900K got almost 1900 (1892, specifically).
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/6030225
(from https://twitter.com/TUM_APISAK/status/1352502247049949187 )
I still think the Geekbench scores are relatively worthless due to the how huge the range an identical CPU SKU can deliver, but if we are talking the better ones...
> Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on January 8, 2021 8:28 am wrote:
> > Dummond D. Slow (mental.delete@this.protozoa.us) on January 7, 2021 10:43 am wrote:
> > > Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on January 2, 2021 2:45 am wrote:
> > > >
> > > > However all the i7-1185G7 scores from the GB5 database are
> > > > much lower, lower than the good scores of the slower
> > > > i7-1165G7, so I believe that all the few existing laptop models that have i7-1185G7 suck badly and we will
> > > > see the actual speed of Tiger Lake @ 4.8 GHz only when the
> > > > Intel NUC with it will be available, in a few months
> > > > (even Intel is expected to launch first an Intel NUC with i7-1165G7, unlike in the past when they used only
> > > > the top speed for themselves; so they must still have serious yield problems with the top SKU).
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > It seems Intel's architecture is capable of much more than the 1550-1600 scores show,
> > > too. Apparently desktop Rocket Lake can hit north of 1800 on 5.0 GHz (with faster SKUs
> > > possible, 11700K is probably second-best SKU), and that is still not on Linux. Of course,
> > > might be skewed by crypto results a bit, would have to compare subscores.
> > >
> > > https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=11700k
> > >
> >
> > The benchmarks that have been done on Rocket Lake samples show that it has an IPC slightly lower
> > than Zen 3, but because the top Rocket Lake SKU is expected to reach a higher clock frequency, of
> > 5.2 ... 5.3 GHz, it is pretty certain that after its launch, at end March, it will have the fastest
> > single-thread performance of any non-overclocked CPU, with ST GB5 between 1800 and 1850.
> >
> > However the tests published until now have confirmed that even with its huge power
> > consumption Rocket Lake will be far from the multi-threaded performance of Zen 3.
> >
>
>
> Sorry I have written wrongly, Rocket Lake is expected to reach ST GB5 of 1900 ... 1950.
>
> 1800 ... 1850 is what is typical for the already existing Ryzen 9 59xx.
>
>
>
Yes, it seems so, there is now a Geekbench result where Intel Core i9-11900K got almost 1900 (1892, specifically).
https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/6030225
(from https://twitter.com/TUM_APISAK/status/1352502247049949187 )
I still think the Geekbench scores are relatively worthless due to the how huge the range an identical CPU SKU can deliver, but if we are talking the better ones...