By: anon2 (anon.delete@this.anon.com), March 17, 2021 3:46 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Foo_ (foo.delete@this.nomail.com) on March 17, 2021 2:55 am wrote:
> Already did
It was a thought exercise, I don't know what was unclear about that. Why would it be a red herring? If anybody _had_ suggested it then it would not have been a good example to use, would it?
It's clearly the wrong thing to do. Perhaps even microkernel advocates can see that. And yet it would be interesting to ask them to explain why it is wrong and yet it is right for various kernel memory allocations to require RPC calls.
Why not make a robust secure microlibc that can crash and restart without bringing the system down? Users of the service simply have to be prepared to handle errors from various calls indicating that the service had to be restarted then they simply have to re-register all their current memory allocations with the malloc service and they'll be back up and running completely transparently, totally 100% secure and robust.
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> Already did
It was a thought exercise, I don't know what was unclear about that. Why would it be a red herring? If anybody _had_ suggested it then it would not have been a good example to use, would it?
It's clearly the wrong thing to do. Perhaps even microkernel advocates can see that. And yet it would be interesting to ask them to explain why it is wrong and yet it is right for various kernel memory allocations to require RPC calls.
Why not make a robust secure microlibc that can crash and restart without bringing the system down? Users of the service simply have to be prepared to handle errors from various calls indicating that the service had to be restarted then they simply have to re-register all their current memory allocations with the malloc service and they'll be back up and running completely transparently, totally 100% secure and robust.
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