Intel gutted 7 nm

By: Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar), December 13, 2021 9:34 pm
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anon (anon.delete@this.anon.anon) on December 13, 2021 2:05 pm wrote:
> Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar) on March 27, 2021 4:08 pm wrote:
> > anon (anon.delete@this.anon.anon) on March 26, 2021 3:39 pm wrote:
> > > Meanwhile, TSMC and Samsung still need to capitalize on their current generation of machines.
> > > So i would lend toward Intel having the priority at ASML, over TSMC or Samsung.
> >
> >
> > THEY CAPITALIZE ON THEIR CURRENT GENERATION OF MACHINES BY CONTINUING TO USE THEM FOR THE NODE THEY WERE
> > ORIGINALLY PURCHASED FOR! Why is that so hard to understand? They will need NEW machines for new nodes!
> >
> > There is no way Intel will have "priority" at ASML. ASML will take orders as they are received, and
> > deliver on those orders as their production allows. Why in the world do you think ASML would let Intel
> > jump the line over orders from TSMC or Samsung? That would be a terrible way to run a business.
>
>
> https://bits-chips.nl/artikel/intel-were-getting-asmls-first-high-na-tool/
> https://www.club386.com/asml-talks-about-its-high-na-euv-machines-coming-in-2023/
>
> [Article Quote]
> "Intel will be the first to get one of the ASML High NA machines when
> they start to roll out, asserted Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger, in July."
>
>
>
> It is really sad how some of you working within the industry were so wrong!
>
> As a knowledgeable scientist, i could manage to understand the industry direction,
> which is not my main field, when you guys were really at lost!
>
> So i want to come back here, point out i was right, showing you were wrong or in bath faith!
> Do better to share faithfully information and knowledgeable discussion on this forum!


Where does it say Intel has "priority"? My claim was that they'll take orders as they are received and deliver as production allows.

Where's your evidence that Intel didn't place their order first and was allowed to jump the line? You must be a pretty terrible scientist, if you think making extraordinary claims without proof is in any way legitimate.
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