Linus Torvalds (torvalds.delete@this.linux-foundation.org) on April 9, 2021 9:25 am wrote:
> Robert Williams (crispysilicon.delete@this.gmail.com) on April 8, 2021 7:50 pm wrote:
> >
> > If you still have your results, might not be a bad idea to take another look come next generation
> > just for comparison? Sapphire Rapids is supposed to add TSX suspend load address tracking
> > according to the manual.
>
> Honestly, I'm done with Intel's market fragmentation crap with Xeon
> CPU's having features that the normal consumer CPU's don't.
>
> So I won't even bother to try TSX until it's in a CPU in a machine that
> is worth getting, and not some stratospherically priced Xeon thing.
>
> Right now Intel has nothing that is even remotely competitive in the Xeon space. Maybe Sapphire
> Rapids makes a difference (the claimed on-package 64GB HBM DRAM certainly sounds interesting,
> and likely a lot more important than any uarch tweak). But Intel had better also change their
> pricing strategy for it to be something I'd be personally interested in.
>
> I hope that AMD's success will make Intel actually take a hard look at its marketing
> (and tech side too, for that matter), but I'll believe it when I see it.
>
> Linus

I wholeheartedly agree about the complete lack of a push by Intel to get features onto mainstream parts - whether TSX or AVX-512 or even other stuff like vPro which kills adoption due to split estates and lowest common denominator tendencies.

So I have an 8665U in one of my machines - According to Intel ARK it has TSX enabled (not that I have personally noticed or used the feature):

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/193563/intel-core-i7-8665u-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-80-ghz.html

It seems select Core parts of 9th Gen also had them eg:

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/195328/intel-core-i7-9850he-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html

For the 10th gen parts I've not managed to find a core model that includes the capability.

11th Gen tiger lake and rocket lake it seems to have disappeared from the Advanced Technologies listing completely:

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/208664/intel-core-i7-1185g7-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-80-ghz-with-ipu.html

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/212325/intel-core-i9-11900k-processor-16m-cache-up-to-5-30-ghz.html

Will have to chase up the next time I speak with one of the Intel architects or PMs about the situation of TSX going forwards because outside of very niche situations Intel is largely silent about this while AMD seems to actively be avoiding the area