By: none (none.delete@this.none.com), April 8, 2021 1:53 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
anon2 (anon.delete@this.anon.com) on April 8, 2021 1:16 am wrote:
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> Wrong. It's always been about performance primarily.
>
> > The tax is about how a better
> > ISA like A64 allows using less transistors than x86 to do the same work. So you can achieve
> > the same performance on a smaller size or achieve more performance using the same size,
> > or a combination of both: e.g. ~10% higher performance and ~10% smaller design.
> >
> > If you read the quote given. TX3 gets a similar performance with a 20 or 30% smaller size.
>
> It's about performance lol, don't try to weasel your way out of it. Of course performance is
> also related to size in some ways, so transitively they are related. But you came out like a
> moron and blurted out x86 tax is not about performance, as though that somehow addressed my tongue
> in cheek quip any better than your dishonest and stupid comparison of shipping cores.
>
> The x86 tax was always "about" performance. Sorry to break it to you. It was
> about performance when RISCs were taking performance crowns. It was about performance
> when Intel couldn't match ARM performance in smartphone space.
In the context of smartphone, the tax was clearly about efficiency, not about performance.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/130552-intel-dismisses-x86-tax-sees-no-future-for-arm-or-any-of-its-competitors
[...]
> Wrong. It's always been about performance primarily.
>
> > The tax is about how a better
> > ISA like A64 allows using less transistors than x86 to do the same work. So you can achieve
> > the same performance on a smaller size or achieve more performance using the same size,
> > or a combination of both: e.g. ~10% higher performance and ~10% smaller design.
> >
> > If you read the quote given. TX3 gets a similar performance with a 20 or 30% smaller size.
>
> It's about performance lol, don't try to weasel your way out of it. Of course performance is
> also related to size in some ways, so transitively they are related. But you came out like a
> moron and blurted out x86 tax is not about performance, as though that somehow addressed my tongue
> in cheek quip any better than your dishonest and stupid comparison of shipping cores.
>
> The x86 tax was always "about" performance. Sorry to break it to you. It was
> about performance when RISCs were taking performance crowns. It was about performance
> when Intel couldn't match ARM performance in smartphone space.
In the context of smartphone, the tax was clearly about efficiency, not about performance.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/130552-intel-dismisses-x86-tax-sees-no-future-for-arm-or-any-of-its-competitors