4K pages probably used to be too large

By: James (no.delete@this.thanks.invalid), May 6, 2021 2:36 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Etienne Lorrain (etienne_lorrain.delete@this.yahoo.fr) on May 6, 2021 1:08 am wrote:

> I do not think there is any advantage in an "ECC line size" bigger than a very few hundred bytes (and
> there is disadvantages like latency)

That was one of the big advantages Western Digital claimed back when 4K disk blocks were first being introduced:
The principle (sic) problem here is that ECC correction takes place in 512B chunks, while ECC can be more efficient when used over larger chunks of data. If ECC data is calculated against a larger sector, even though more ECC data is necessary than for a single 512B sector, less ECC data than the sum of multiple sectors is needed to maintain the same level of operational reliability. One estimate for 4K sector technology puts this at 100 bytes of ECC data needed for a 4K sector, versus 320 (40x8) for 8 512B sectors. Furthermore the larger sectors means that larger erroneous chunks of data can be corrected (burst error correction), something that was becoming harder as greater areal densities made it easier to wipe out larger parts of a 512B sector.
< Previous Post in ThreadNext Post in Thread >
TopicPosted ByDate
4K pages probably used to be too largeYuhong Bao2021/05/01 01:01 PM
  HDD seek time isn't freeMark Roulo2021/05/01 02:12 PM
    HDD seek time isn't freeYuhong Bao2021/05/01 02:21 PM
      HDD seek time isn't freeTim Mc2021/05/01 02:42 PM
        HDD seek time isn't freerwessel2021/05/01 02:57 PM
  4K pages probably used to be too largeBen LaHaise2021/05/02 10:45 AM
    VAX was 512 (in 1977) (NT)anonymous22021/05/02 08:36 PM
      FWIW, S/370 offered a choice of 2K and 4K (NT)rwessel2021/05/03 05:09 AM
      DEC's earliest PDP-11 disks were 512 (in 1971)John Yates2021/05/03 01:53 PM
    4K pages probably used to be too largeanon22021/05/03 01:17 AM
      4K pages probably used to be too largeBen LaHaise2021/05/03 05:36 PM
        Morotola 680x0 series page sizesBen LaHaise2021/05/03 05:51 PM
        4K pages probably used to be too largeanon22021/05/03 06:39 PM
          4K pages probably used to be too largeanon22021/05/03 08:51 PM
        4K pages probably used to be too largeYuhong Bao2021/05/03 10:51 PM
      4K pages probably used to be too largewumpus2021/05/05 09:06 AM
        4K pages probably used to be too largeanon22021/05/05 04:04 PM
          4K pages probably used to be too largeChester2021/05/05 06:45 PM
            4K pages probably used to be too largewumpus2021/05/06 09:06 AM
              Phenom TLB bugHeikki Kultala2021/05/06 12:46 PM
                Phenom TLB bugChester2021/05/06 05:29 PM
        4K pages probably used to be too largeEtienne Lorrain2021/05/06 01:08 AM
          4K pages probably used to be too largeJames2021/05/06 02:36 AM
            4K pages probably used to be too largerwessel2021/05/06 09:32 AM
              Reformatting SCSI disk sector sizeDoug S2021/05/06 11:30 AM
        4K pages probably used to be too largeDavid Hess2021/05/11 08:57 AM
  Page size is more complex/nuancedPaul A. Clayton2021/05/08 10:03 AM
Reply to this Topic
Name:
Email:
Topic:
Body: No Text
How do you spell tangerine? 🍊