Brendan (btrotter.delete@this.gmail.com) on July 10, 2021 12:59 am wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Some Rust people like Alex Gaynor who actively push Rust into kernel
> > look crazy for me. They said using C and C++ violates human rights.
> >
> > https://www.memorysafety.org/docs/memory-safety/
> >
> > These vulnerabilities and exploits, and many others, are made possible because C and C++ are not
> > memory safe. Organizations which write large amounts of C and C++ inevitably produce large numbers
> > of vulnerabilities that can be directly attributed to a lack of memory safety. These vulnerabilities
> > are exploited, to the peril of hospitals, human rights dissidents, and health policy experts. Using
> > C and C++ is bad for society, bad for your reputation, and it's bad for your customers.
>
> To be "slightly more fair", this marketing propaganda was probably written with normal
> software (that only ever deals with virtual addresses) in mind. It shouldn't be assumed
> that the author intended their words to apply to kernels (that must deal with multiple
> kinds of addresses/address spaces and the conversions between them).
>
> - Brendan
>

Clearly the author DOES mean things including OS kernel.


"Use memory safe languages! There are lots of great ones to choose from. Writing an operating system kernel or web browser? Consider Rust! Building for iOS and macOS? Swift's got you covered. Network server? Go's a fine choice. These are just a few examples, there are many other excellent memory safe languages to choose from (and many other wonderful use case pairings!)."