By: cqwrteur (euloanty.delete@this.live.com), July 13, 2021 10:18 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Anon (no.delete@this.spam.com) on July 13, 2021 10:02 pm wrote:
> cqwrteur (euloanty.delete@this.live.com) on July 13, 2021 9:39 pm wrote:
> > What about saying C is an OO language since Linus Torvalds uses C this way for drivers?
>
> What makes a language OO or not is what the language features, not how people use it.
>
> > You use the right tool. Do you understand? OO is never a right tool due to dead
> > virtual function issues. All your virtual functions are binary bloat trash.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> Also, you could just write one single reply, would be much easier for readers.
The problem is that compiler does not remove dead virtual functions.
struct A
{
virtual void foo() {}
virtual void bar() {}
virtual ~A() {}
};
Even nobody uses foo() or bar(), the compiler will still emit dead code to that function. That is why iostream is extremely bloat, just #include can bloat 800kb on typical GCC libstdc++ toolchain.
Qt and Cuda are even much worse, they can bloat 1GB of dead virtual functions inside the shared library.
> cqwrteur (euloanty.delete@this.live.com) on July 13, 2021 9:39 pm wrote:
> > What about saying C is an OO language since Linus Torvalds uses C this way for drivers?
>
> What makes a language OO or not is what the language features, not how people use it.
>
> > You use the right tool. Do you understand? OO is never a right tool due to dead
> > virtual function issues. All your virtual functions are binary bloat trash.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> Also, you could just write one single reply, would be much easier for readers.
The problem is that compiler does not remove dead virtual functions.
struct A
{
virtual void foo() {}
virtual void bar() {}
virtual ~A() {}
};
Even nobody uses foo() or bar(), the compiler will still emit dead code to that function. That is why iostream is extremely bloat, just #include can bloat 800kb on typical GCC libstdc++ toolchain.
Qt and Cuda are even much worse, they can bloat 1GB of dead virtual functions inside the shared library.
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