By: Mark Roulo (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com), September 22, 2021 3:40 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Moritz (better.delete@this.not.tell) on September 22, 2021 2:09 pm wrote:
> Mark Roulo (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com) on September 22, 2021 12:37 pm wrote:
>
> > But (leading edge) fabs have two very bad properties:
> > Their value depreciates quickly
>
> That does not seem to be the case.
> If you had bought a 14nm fab, you could still run it today. Way longer than 2 years.
You can *RUN* it but you don't get the price premium that you
get when it is new. TSMC still runs (as an example) 65nm fabs.
But the big money is made when the fab is shiny and new. Part
of Global Foundry's problem was that it kept being late to
each node relative to TSMC and so couldn't charge the new-ness
premium.
> Mark Roulo (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com) on September 22, 2021 12:37 pm wrote:
>
> > But (leading edge) fabs have two very bad properties:
> > Their value depreciates quickly
>
> That does not seem to be the case.
> If you had bought a 14nm fab, you could still run it today. Way longer than 2 years.
You can *RUN* it but you don't get the price premium that you
get when it is new. TSMC still runs (as an example) 65nm fabs.
But the big money is made when the fab is shiny and new. Part
of Global Foundry's problem was that it kept being late to
each node relative to TSMC and so couldn't charge the new-ness
premium.