By: Captain Obvious (lost.delete@this.in.a.cave), September 23, 2021 11:16 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
me (me.delete@this.me.com) on September 22, 2021 12:27 pm wrote:
> none (none.delete@this.none.com) on September 22, 2021 7:46 am wrote:
> > Look for scrapers and miners. They are responsible for GPU shortage, both AMD and NVIDIA.
> >
>
> OP must have a pretty nice rock to live under.
Price check:
AMD 5600G APU. 180 mm**2 of relatively low binned 7nm TSMC available at $260
AMD 6600XT GPU. 237 mm**2, plus 8GB of absolutely top DRAM plus everything else that goes into that PCB. MSRP is "pre scalped" at $380, and more likely unavailable under $700
I suspect that AMD might be able to meet that $380 price without too much change in supply or demand. But anything less would require an abundance of TSMC 7nm starts.
Nvidia 1660 GPU. 237 mm**2 of TSMC 12FFN (plus the rest of the PCB) - similar prices to the AMD 6600XT.
I'm guessing that moving to Samsung 7nm let TSMC put any future wafer starts at the end of the line. That and I'd assume that they wouldn't ship any of these unless they produced enough GP-102-whatever to slake the thirst of the miners, so it isn't happening.
A quick check implied the AMD card was significantly more capable than the nvidia card, but there's a lot of brand loyalty there. Or perhaps buyers are simply grabbing whatever they can get.
> none (none.delete@this.none.com) on September 22, 2021 7:46 am wrote:
> > Look for scrapers and miners. They are responsible for GPU shortage, both AMD and NVIDIA.
> >
>
> OP must have a pretty nice rock to live under.
Price check:
AMD 5600G APU. 180 mm**2 of relatively low binned 7nm TSMC available at $260
AMD 6600XT GPU. 237 mm**2, plus 8GB of absolutely top DRAM plus everything else that goes into that PCB. MSRP is "pre scalped" at $380, and more likely unavailable under $700
I suspect that AMD might be able to meet that $380 price without too much change in supply or demand. But anything less would require an abundance of TSMC 7nm starts.
Nvidia 1660 GPU. 237 mm**2 of TSMC 12FFN (plus the rest of the PCB) - similar prices to the AMD 6600XT.
I'm guessing that moving to Samsung 7nm let TSMC put any future wafer starts at the end of the line. That and I'd assume that they wouldn't ship any of these unless they produced enough GP-102-whatever to slake the thirst of the miners, so it isn't happening.
A quick check implied the AMD card was significantly more capable than the nvidia card, but there's a lot of brand loyalty there. Or perhaps buyers are simply grabbing whatever they can get.
