fab capacity or Why are there no GPUs (by Nvidia) to be had?

By: Captain Obvious (lost.delete@this.in.a.cave), September 23, 2021 11:16 am
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me (me.delete@this.me.com) on September 22, 2021 12:27 pm wrote:
> none (none.delete@this.none.com) on September 22, 2021 7:46 am wrote:
> > Look for scrapers and miners. They are responsible for GPU shortage, both AMD and NVIDIA.
> >
>
> OP must have a pretty nice rock to live under.

Price check:

AMD 5600G APU. 180 mm**2 of relatively low binned 7nm TSMC available at $260
AMD 6600XT GPU. 237 mm**2, plus 8GB of absolutely top DRAM plus everything else that goes into that PCB. MSRP is "pre scalped" at $380, and more likely unavailable under $700

I suspect that AMD might be able to meet that $380 price without too much change in supply or demand. But anything less would require an abundance of TSMC 7nm starts.

Nvidia 1660 GPU. 237 mm**2 of TSMC 12FFN (plus the rest of the PCB) - similar prices to the AMD 6600XT.

I'm guessing that moving to Samsung 7nm let TSMC put any future wafer starts at the end of the line. That and I'd assume that they wouldn't ship any of these unless they produced enough GP-102-whatever to slake the thirst of the miners, so it isn't happening.

A quick check implied the AMD card was significantly more capable than the nvidia card, but there's a lot of brand loyalty there. Or perhaps buyers are simply grabbing whatever they can get.
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fab capacity or Why are there no GPUs (by Nvidia) to be had?Moritz2021/09/22 06:40 AM
  fab capacity or Why are there no GPUs (by Nvidia) to be had?none2021/09/22 07:46 AM
    fab capacity or Why are there no GPUs (by Nvidia) to be had?me2021/09/22 12:27 PM
      fab capacity or Why are there no GPUs (by Nvidia) to be had?Captain Obvious2021/09/23 11:16 AM
  fab capacity or Why are there no GPUs (by Nvidia) to be had?Mark Roulo2021/09/22 12:37 PM
    fab depreciatonMoritz2021/09/22 02:09 PM
      fab depreciatonMark Roulo2021/09/22 03:40 PM
        fab depreciatonme2021/09/25 11:40 AM
        new cost structureMoritz2021/09/27 04:30 AM
          new cost structureDavid Kanter2021/09/27 10:04 AM
            new cost structure and integrationMoritz2021/09/28 03:04 AM
              new cost structure and integrationDoug S2021/09/28 07:53 AM
                new cost structure and integrationMoritz2021/09/28 09:55 AM
              new cost structure and integrationGroo2021/09/29 07:45 AM
    fab capacity or Why are there no GPUs (by Nvidia) to be had?James2021/09/23 01:52 AM
      mining, blameMoritz2021/09/23 09:30 AM
      fake PR stuntCaptain Obvious2021/09/23 11:30 AM
        fake PR stuntKester L2021/09/23 02:17 PM
          NVidia: TSMC and SamsungMark Roulo2021/09/23 05:43 PM
        fake PR stuntJames2021/09/24 01:34 AM
  Chinese central bank banned all crypto transactions. (NT)Michael S2021/09/24 06:16 AM
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