N2, or V1?

By: G (108106020.delete@this.nitt.edu), December 3, 2021 10:25 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on December 3, 2021 8:52 am wrote:
> Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on December 3, 2021 8:47 am wrote:
> > Anon (no.delete@this.thanks.com) on December 3, 2021 6:52 am wrote:
> > > Kara (karaardalan.delete@this.gmail.com) on December 3, 2021 6:36 am wrote:
> > > > none (none.delete@this.none.com) on December 3, 2021 6:19 am wrote:
> > > > > Kara (karaardalan.delete@this.gmail.com) on December 3, 2021 6:05 am wrote:
> > > > > > Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on December 3, 2021 5:51 am wrote:
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> > > > > > > https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/12/02/aws-goes-wide-and-deep-with-graviton3-server-chip/
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> > > > > > The N2 is described much wider here than Arm has ever disclosed.
> > > > > > I hate it when companies do this, like give some info what's gonna happen?
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> > > > > What description of N2 is there in that article? I only see guesses.
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> > > > I meant the guesses, it's so not ARM to design 8 wide decode and 15 wide issue
> > > > mArchs. 64kb l1i cache wouldn't be able to keep up Nor the punly ROBs, how
> > > > do you feed such a wide core? Without smt or legendry l1i and rob?
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> > > > Neoverses are targeted toward server processors, making them wider doesn't make any sense.
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> > > I thought that this was the V1 core? Aimed at maximum perf per thread.
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> > Amazon did not disclose which core they have used, but what was said matches better N2 than V1.
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> > Choosing N2 also makes more sense for Amazon, because they are more interested in
> > general-purpose performance within a given power consumption than on performance
> > when only few threads are active or performance for floating-point applications.
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> Moreover, Graviton 3 uses 100 W for 64 cores.
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> After subtracting uncore power, the power limit per core will be 1.25 W at most.
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> This power level is below what a core from the X1/X2/V1 series requires, which is in the 2 ... 3 W range.
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> Power levels in the range 1 ... 1.5 W per core are the target for N1/N2.
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> This is an additional reason to believe that Graviton 3 uses N2.
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I think Graviton3 uarch matches exactly with cortex-V1.

https://i2.wp.com/semianalysis.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/7.jpg?w=2048&ssl=1
https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16640/Neoverse_V1_13_575px.png
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Some info about the Amazon Graviton 3Adrian2021/12/03 06:51 AM
  Some info about the Amazon Graviton 3Kara2021/12/03 07:01 AM
    Some info about the Amazon Graviton 3---2021/12/03 10:03 AM
      Some info about the Amazon Graviton 3Kara2021/12/03 10:45 AM
  Some info about the Amazon Graviton 3Kara2021/12/03 07:05 AM
    Some info about the Amazon Graviton 3none2021/12/03 07:19 AM
      Some info about the Amazon Graviton 3Kara2021/12/03 07:36 AM
        N2, or V1? Anon2021/12/03 07:52 AM
          N2, or V1? Adrian2021/12/03 09:47 AM
            N2, or V1? Adrian2021/12/03 09:52 AM
              N2, or V1? G2021/12/03 10:25 AM
                N2, or V1? Adrian2021/12/03 11:51 AM
                  N2, or V1? Wilco2021/12/03 02:58 PM
                    N2, or V1? Adrian2021/12/04 03:33 AM
                      N2, or V1? -.-2021/12/04 04:37 AM
                      N2, or V1? Rayla2021/12/04 02:20 PM
                        N2, or V1? Adrian2021/12/05 01:15 AM
                          N2, or V1? dmcq2021/12/05 02:43 AM
                            N2, or V1? Adrian2021/12/05 03:54 AM
                              N2, or V1? ---2021/12/05 11:45 AM
                                N2, or V1? Adrian2021/12/05 01:07 PM
                                  Other (minor) power factors?Paul A. Clayton2021/12/06 07:37 AM
                    N2, or V1? Anon2021/12/04 10:53 PM
                      N2, or V1? Andrei F2021/12/05 04:22 AM
                Only 4 ALUsJörn Engel2021/12/03 07:37 PM
                  Only 4 ALUsWilco2021/12/04 09:54 AM
          N2, or V1? -.-2022/05/24 06:34 AM
            Graviton3 on Chip &CheesePer Hesselgren2022/06/17 06:19 AM
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