but what about copyright

By: Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org), April 9, 2022 9:39 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Matt Sayler (sayler.delete@this.thewalrus.org) on April 9, 2022 7:27 am wrote:
> aaron spink (aaronspink.delete@this.notearthlink.net) on April 9, 2022 5:28 am wrote:
> > hobold (hobold.delete@this.vectorizer.org) on April 8, 2022 3:44 am wrote:
> > > Ian's article is copyrighted, and so are AMD's slides. Both are publicly
> > > viewable, but neither is permitted to be copied at will.
> > >
> > That's an incorrect reading of copyright. Copyright *reserved many rights* but not
> > all rights to that which is copyrighted. Their is a large list of fair use rights.
> >
> > > Are patent applications exempt from copyright?
> > >
> > if they are or aren't is immaterial as the cites are reasonable fair use.
> >
>
> https://www.jonesday.com/en/insights/2013/12/can-a-patent-application-violate-the-copyright-laws
>
> rolls up a few federal district (trial) court cases, as of 2013. (The subject seems to be
> more text than illustration). I don't see anything much at the appellate level but #IANAL
>
>
Guidance
>
> To date, other publishers have not followed suit in bringing similar infringement claims against patent applicants
> or their law firms, and the initial decisions in these cases should discourage more suits based on this theory.
> Nevertheless, companies and law firms might wish to take steps consistent with the courts' treatment of these
> claims to forestall similar claims of copyright infringement based on copying of scholarly articles.

>
>


Thanks, interesting information about legal precedents.


There is no doubt that many copyright owners might like to restrict what is considered as fair use.

Nevertheless, if it were accepted that the descriptions of the prior art in patents are not fair use, then there are millions of existing patents which would become copyright infringing.


Moreover, a restriction of what can be written in a patent to something like "see figure 14 at page 29 in the magazine/book ..." is not acceptable, because whoever reads the patent might not have any easy way to gain access to the original publication. Also, after many years, the original publication might not be available anywhere, especially now, when Web pages are quoted.

Many old patents, from 100 or 150 years ago provide much useful historical information, precisely because they are self contained. If they had been just a list of unreachable now references, they would not have been worth much.











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