but what about copyright

By: Ungo (a.delete@this.b.c.d.e), April 9, 2022 11:06 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
hobold (hobold.delete@this.vectorizer.org) on April 9, 2022 12:01 pm wrote:
> There is a difference between
> - describing something in one's own words, citing a source of the concepts
> (no copyright involved at all)
> - quoting a source in their words, with attribution
> (fair use)
> - copying a source in their words, without proper attribution
> (plagiarism)
>
> There won't be any legal claims in this particular case, because Dr. Ian Cutress wants
> to work with the industry as an analyst, not against it. And AMD won't sue because they
> don't know how many such skeletons they might have forgotten in their own basement.

If either party asked a lawyer about their chances, in my non-lawyer opinion I'd guess they'd get told a suit was pointless because it would be a fair-use case and it seems that it's a normal thing to do in legitimate patent applications when describing the state of the art as a contrast to the new invention.

> It just doesn't look good when a company, in trying to secure governmental protection
> of their own intellectual property, is sloppy with the IP rights of third parties.

There's nothing which actually looks bad here, as far as I know. The person who tweeted it has a subsequent tweet thread where they admit to the initial tweet being at least a little bit duplicitous: despite implying otherwise, or at least trying to trap people into thinking so, the tweeter knew full well this wasn't actually Intel patenting the contents of AMD slides. Or at least I think that's what they're saying, they're very vague and waffly and weird in their communications style.
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              The one who twitted does does not know to read patents.Anon2022/04/08 12:53 AM
              The one who twitted does does not know to read patents.Adrian2022/04/08 03:49 AM
            but what about copyrighthobold2022/04/08 03:44 AM
              but what about copyrightAdrian2022/04/08 04:00 AM
                but what about copyrightAdrian2022/04/08 04:10 AM
              but what about copyrightaaron spink2022/04/09 05:28 AM
                but what about copyrightMatt Sayler2022/04/09 07:27 AM
                  but what about copyrightAdrian2022/04/09 09:39 AM
                    but what about copyrighthobold2022/04/09 12:01 PM
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                      but what about copyrightUngo2022/04/09 11:06 PM
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