Jukka Larja (roskakori2006.delete@this.gmail.com) on May 18, 2022 6:47 am wrote:
> me (me.delete@this.me.com) on May 18, 2022 5:50 am wrote:
> > > More likely, the opposite is going to happen in the next ten years: AVX512-less CPUs
> > > will rule the installed base and AVX512 will be, at best, HPC-only curiosity.
> > >
> > > 2021-2022 are peak years for AVx512 in terms of shipment and
> > > 2023 would be a peak year in terms of installed base.
> >
> > AVX-512 will be back on Intel's mainstream products. Eventually.
> > Especially since AMD is adding it in Zen 4.
>
> Just out of curiosity, has AMD said something official about
> this? I know there are rumours, but they go many ways.
>
> I'm not sure if Intel has said anything official, but I think there's a good reason to presume that
> next Core models (13th generation) to be released by the end of this year or early next year will
> still not have AVX-512 (due to efficiency cores not having it). By the 2024 who knows what makes
> sense and what not? Both Intel and AMD could decide that AVX-512 doesn't make sense in consumer
> products, or only makes sense as some heavily crippled, micro-coded compatibility thingy.
>
> -JLarja



There have been published some claims of people who have tested Genoa engineering samples that AVX-512 support is indeed present.

The only uncertain things are whether AVX-512 will also be enabled in the desktop Ryzen Zen 4, or AMD will imitate Intel by disabling it, and whether the mobile Ryzen Zen 4 will support AVX-512, being a separately designed chip.