Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on May 18, 2022 11:57 pm wrote:
> Jukka Larja (roskakori2006.delete@this.gmail.com) on May 18, 2022 6:47 am wrote:
> > me (me.delete@this.me.com) on May 18, 2022 5:50 am wrote:
> > > > More likely, the opposite is going to happen in the next ten years: AVX512-less CPUs
> > > > will rule the installed base and AVX512 will be, at best, HPC-only curiosity.
> > > >
> > > > 2021-2022 are peak years for AVx512 in terms of shipment and
> > > > 2023 would be a peak year in terms of installed base.
> > >
> > > AVX-512 will be back on Intel's mainstream products. Eventually.
> > > Especially since AMD is adding it in Zen 4.
> >
> > Just out of curiosity, has AMD said something official about
> > this? I know there are rumours, but they go many ways.
> >
> > I'm not sure if Intel has said anything official, but I think there's a good reason to presume that
> > next Core models (13th generation) to be released by the end of this year or early next year will
> > still not have AVX-512 (due to efficiency cores not having it). By the 2024 who knows what makes
> > sense and what not? Both Intel and AMD could decide that AVX-512 doesn't make sense in consumer
> > products, or only makes sense as some heavily crippled, micro-coded compatibility thingy.
>
> There have been published some claims of people who have tested Genoa
> engineering samples that AVX-512 support is indeed present.
>
> The only uncertain things are whether AVX-512 will also be enabled in the desktop
> Ryzen Zen 4, or AMD will imitate Intel by disabling it, and whether the mobile
> Ryzen Zen 4 will support AVX-512, being a separately designed chip.

So AMD has the cash for separate desktop and mobile chips, great news.

I have been whining about cheap ass Intel having one design for both desktop and mobile for a decade. Intel does have mobile only chips now, but that may partially be because the new fab process does not clock as high. ;)