x86 vs RISC

By: Heikki Kultala (heikk.i.kultal.a.delete@this.gmail.com), June 2, 2022 11:04 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on June 2, 2022 1:47 am wrote:
> Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar) on June 1, 2022 9:50 pm wrote:
> > Peter Lewis (peter.delete@this.notyahoo.com) on June 1, 2022 3:55 pm wrote:
> > > >> I think x86 will eventually be killed by variable length instruction decode, Moore’s law slowing
> > > >> down, availability of software binary translation from x86 to something else and most low-performance
> > > >> software running on top of JavaScript. The x86 instruction sets will eventually have the same market
> > > >> significance as the IBM 360 instruction set. I own Intel stock and I’m not selling because I think
> > > >> it will take more than 20 years for x86 to be displaced from the dominant position it has today.
> > > >
> > > > Why? What are the market forces that you believe will displace
> > > > x86? What do you think will replace it, RISC-V?
> > >
> > > My guess is the higher complexity and higher power consumption
> > > of x86 will eventually allow ARM implementations
> > > to outperform x86 implementations. Apple’s M1 P-cores currently
> > > decode 8 instructions per clock, while Intel’s
> > > Golden Cove cores in Alder Lake and Sapphire Rapids decode
> > > 6 instructions per clock. When ARM implementations
> > > are decoding 32 instructions per clock, it will be very difficult for x86 implementations to keep up.
> > >
> >
> >
> > People have been predicting this ever since the first superscalar RISCs appeared over 30
> > years ago, and it still hasn't happened. A couple years ago people were saying 3/4 wide was
> > the best x86 could manage, now they've beat it. Are you saying where they are now is the
> > limit, or will the goalposts shift again in 5 years when they take the next step wider?
> >
>
>
>
> Using an ISA that requires a more complex decoder, especially when decoding many
> instructions per cycle, is just one of many factors which determine the relationships
> between speed, power consumption, manufacturing cost, design cost.
>
> A disadvantage in ISA can be easily compensated by advantages in manufacturing
> process or just by having more competent designers.
>
>
> The same happens e.g. in a fighting sport. A heavier fighter has an advantage, put
> a more skilled opponent can easily beat him, despite the weight difference.
>
> Nevertheless, when everything else is the same, so the 2 opponents are equally skilled, the heavier
> will win, which is why all fighting sport competitors are separated in weight classes.
>
>
> The same is in CPU design and manufacturing. When everything else would be equal, the
> CPU using an ISA which needs a simpler decoder would be cheaper and/or faster.

But everything else is not equal. Simpler decoder typically means either
1) worse code density, worse cache hit rate, OR
2) less expressive instructions, more instructions needed to perform the same task.

So the argument "RISC is always better because it allows simpler decoder" is just stupid.

Everything is about tradeoffs. Before 1980's, what mattered was code size. But then, in 1980's simpler decoding allowed pipelining, and the RISCs hype came.

But in 1990's, simple decoding was no longer need for pipelining, but more complex decoding allowed having more expressive instructions(less instructions needed to perform task), and better code density allowed better instruction cache hit rates. But people had gotten stuck to the RISC hype, and did not question it. Every computer architecture course in universities kept preaching the obsolete RISC gospel.

> As long as Intel had other more important advantages, a less efficient ISA did not matter.

Compared to the subject of the previous post, RISC-V, x86 is not "less efficient ISA". It's MORE efficient.

Compared to ARMv9, it could be considered as less efficient, but not because ARM is RISC and does not have instructions which are shorter than 32 bits long. Instead, because ARMv9 has actually been designed to take the best ideas of everything, and take also the new ideas that x86 lacks due it's age and RISC-V lacks due the RISC-purity/RISC-religion.




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                            Questions About Apple's AVX512-.-2022/05/18 02:41 AM
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                                Questions About Apple's AVX512-.-2022/05/19 05:11 AM
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                                    Questions About Apple's AVX512-.-2022/05/20 03:04 AM
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                          Backward Compatibility for SVE2 CodeJörn Engel2022/05/17 09:24 AM
                            Backward Compatibility for SVE2 CodeCharlie Burnes2022/05/17 10:21 AM
                              Backward Compatibility for SVE2 CodeJörn Engel2022/05/17 01:11 PM
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                                            Alternative to Highway for code that is not SIMD width agnosticCharlie Burnes2022/05/22 05:30 AM
                                              Removal of NEONDoug S2022/05/22 09:57 AM
                                                Removal of NEONCharlie Burnes2022/05/22 12:12 PM
                                                Removal of NEON-.-2022/05/23 03:23 AM
                                                  Removal of NEONDoug S2022/05/23 07:08 AM
                                                    Removal of NEONdmcq2022/05/23 11:59 AM
                                                  Removal of NEONblaine2022/05/24 09:40 PM
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                                                Alternative to Highway for code that is not SIMD width agnosticCharlie Burnes2022/05/22 12:06 PM
                                                  Alternative to Highway for code that is not SIMD width agnosticJan Wassenberg2022/05/22 09:35 PM
                                              Alternative to Highway for code that is not SIMD width agnostic-.-2022/05/23 03:28 AM
                                          Alternative to Highway for code that is not SIMD width agnosticAdrian2022/05/22 04:04 AM
                                            Alternative to Highway for code that is not SIMD width agnosticCharlie Burnes2022/05/22 06:20 AM
                                          Alternative to Highway for code that is not SIMD width agnosticJörn Engel2022/05/22 12:13 PM
                                            Alternative to Highway for code that is not SIMD width agnosticCharlie Burnes2022/05/22 12:53 PM
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                                                      Is Highway a full compiler or yet another LLVM front-end, like icpc ?Michael S2022/05/23 01:08 AM
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                                                OpenMP SIMD DirectivesJan Wassenberg2022/05/23 04:49 AM
                                                  OpenMP SIMD DirectivesMichael S2022/05/23 12:04 PM
                                                    OpenMP SIMD DirectivesJan Wassenberg2022/05/23 09:43 PM
                                        OpenMP SIMD Directivesanon22022/05/22 10:42 PM
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                                      Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512anonymou52022/05/18 04:06 AM
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                                          Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512me2022/05/18 04:50 AM
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                                              Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512me2022/05/18 08:18 AM
                                              Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Doug S2022/05/18 09:26 AM
                                                Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Brett2022/05/18 10:03 AM
                                                  Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512me2022/05/18 10:35 AM
                                                    Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/18 09:31 PM
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                                                        Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/19 05:55 AM
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                                                      Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/19 05:49 AM
                                                        Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jukka Larja2022/05/19 10:14 AM
                                                          Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/19 11:19 AM
                                                            Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jukka Larja2022/05/20 09:04 AM
                                                              Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512zzyzx2022/05/20 12:48 PM
                                                                Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jukka Larja2022/05/20 08:48 PM
                                                                  Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512zzyzx2022/05/21 06:44 PM
                                                                    Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jukka Larja2022/05/21 08:48 PM
                                                                      Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512zzyzx2022/05/22 01:46 AM
                                                                        Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jukka Larja2022/05/22 04:32 AM
                                                                          Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512zzyzx2022/05/22 03:06 PM
                                                                            Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jukka Larja2022/05/22 11:59 PM
                                                                              Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512zzyzx2022/05/23 10:02 PM
                                                                                Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jukka Larja2022/05/24 01:33 AM
                                                                                  Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512zzyzx2022/05/24 02:18 PM
                                                                                    Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jukka Larja2022/05/25 05:01 AM
                                                                                      Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512zzyzx2022/05/25 02:02 PM
                                                      Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Eugene Nalimov2022/05/19 09:25 PM
                                                        Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jukka Larja2022/05/20 08:34 AM
                                                  Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/18 09:40 PM
                                                    Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Andrey2022/05/19 08:26 AM
                                                    Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Brett2022/05/19 10:23 AM
                                                      Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Andrey2022/05/19 12:50 PM
                                                        Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Brett2022/05/20 10:52 PM
                                                  Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Adrian2022/05/18 11:22 PM
                                                  Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Brendan2022/05/19 03:32 AM
                                                Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/18 09:29 PM
                                                  Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Michael S2022/05/19 12:14 AM
                                                    Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/19 06:02 AM
                                                      Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Michael S2022/05/19 07:13 AM
                                                        Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/20 12:34 AM
                                                          Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Michael S2022/05/20 01:48 AM
                                                          OT Documentation on JPEG XL - site certificate brokenMichael S2022/05/20 02:17 AM
                                                            OT Documentation on JPEG XL - site certificate brokenJan Wassenberg2022/05/20 09:18 PM
                                                    Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512-.-2022/05/20 02:55 AM
                                                      Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Michael S2022/05/20 04:51 AM
                                                        Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/20 09:54 PM
                                                          Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/20 09:57 PM
                                                            Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Michael S2022/05/21 09:57 AM
                                                              Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512---2022/05/21 05:59 PM
                                                                Adding instructions to NEON??Doug S2022/05/22 10:01 AM
                                                                  Adding instructions to NEON??---2022/05/22 12:59 PM
                                                                    Adding instructions to NEON??Doug S2022/05/22 07:46 PM
                                                                      Adding instructions to NEON??Michael S2022/05/23 12:04 AM
                                                                        Adding instructions to NEON??anonymou52022/05/24 03:02 PM
                                                                      Adding instructions to NEON??Ungo2022/05/23 01:05 AM
                                                                        Adding instructions to NEON??---2022/05/23 05:49 AM
                                                                          Adding instructions to NEON??Ungo2022/05/23 08:01 PM
                                                                            Adding instructions to NEON??---2022/05/24 09:26 AM
                                                                      Adding instructions to NEON??---2022/05/23 05:56 AM
                                                                Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512noko2022/05/23 11:29 AM
                                                              Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/21 10:47 PM
                                                                Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Michael S2022/05/22 12:40 AM
                                                                  Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/22 03:06 AM
                                                                    Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Michael S2022/05/22 04:12 AM
                                                                      Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/22 04:53 AM
                                                                        Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Michael S2022/05/22 05:15 AM
                                                                          Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Jan Wassenberg2022/05/22 10:56 AM
                                              Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512-.-2022/05/18 04:23 PM
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                                                          Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyMark2022/05/20 11:15 AM
                                                            Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyAndrey2022/05/20 02:34 PM
                                                            Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyBrendan2022/05/20 04:29 PM
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                                                                    Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyDoug S2022/05/21 11:33 AM
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                                                                  Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Onlyrwessel2022/05/21 04:05 AM
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                                                                    Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyAndrey2022/05/21 10:30 AM
                                                                      Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyBrendan2022/05/21 11:58 AM
                                                                        Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyLinus Torvalds2022/05/21 03:58 PM
                                                                          Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Only-.-2022/05/21 06:03 PM
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                                                                            Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyAndrey2022/05/22 03:18 PM
                                                                              Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyBrendan2022/05/22 07:41 PM
                                                                                Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyLinus Torvalds2022/05/22 08:49 PM
                                                                                  Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchJan Wassenberg2022/05/22 10:11 PM
                                                                                    Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchJörn Engel2022/05/22 10:51 PM
                                                                                      Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchAdrian2022/05/22 11:25 PM
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                                                                                      Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchJan Wassenberg2022/05/22 11:41 PM
                                                                                    Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchUngo2022/05/23 12:27 AM
                                                                                      Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchMichael S2022/05/23 02:14 AM
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                                                                                        RISC-VPeter Lewis2022/05/30 02:45 PM
                                                                                          RISC-VHeikki Kultala2022/05/31 07:59 AM
                                                                                            RISC-VPeter Lewis2022/05/31 03:34 PM
                                                                                              RISC-VDoug S2022/05/31 11:45 PM
                                                                                                RISC-VPeter Lewis2022/06/01 02:55 PM
                                                                                                  RISC-VDoug S2022/06/01 08:50 PM
                                                                                                    RISC-V Eric Fink2022/06/01 11:20 PM
                                                                                                      Process...Anon2022/06/01 11:35 PM
                                                                                                        Process...Peter Lewis2022/06/02 12:54 AM
                                                                                                        Process...Michael S2022/06/02 03:42 AM
                                                                                                        Process...Eric Fink2022/06/02 04:43 AM
                                                                                                          Process...---2022/06/02 12:06 PM
                                                                                                            Process...Peter Lewis2022/06/02 01:01 PM
                                                                                                              Process... ItaniumRichard S2022/06/02 04:14 PM
                                                                                                                ItaniumPeter Lewis2022/06/02 05:07 PM
                                                                                                                  ItaniumRichard S2022/06/02 08:27 PM
                                                                                                                Process... ItaniumMichael S2022/06/03 03:39 AM
                                                                                                                  Process... ItaniumAdrian2022/06/03 04:26 AM
                                                                                                                    Process... ItaniumMichael S2022/06/03 05:32 AM
                                                                                                                      Process... ItaniumAdrian2022/06/03 06:14 AM
                                                                                                              Process...Doug S2022/06/02 09:54 PM
                                                                                                                Process...Peter Lewis2022/06/03 12:19 AM
                                                                                                            Process...Mark Roulo2022/06/02 07:15 PM
                                                                                                              Process...Michael S2022/06/03 04:06 AM
                                                                                                            Process...Brendan2022/06/02 08:13 PM
                                                                                                          Process...anon22022/06/02 03:13 PM
                                                                                                            Process...Eric Fink2022/06/02 09:00 PM
                                                                                                              Process...Michael S2022/06/03 04:16 AM
                                                                                                                Process...Doug S2022/06/03 07:57 AM
                                                                                                                  Process...James2022/06/04 03:46 AM
                                                                                                                    Process...Doug S2022/06/04 08:04 AM
                                                                                                                      Process...Anon42022/06/04 09:31 AM
                                                                                                                      Process...James2022/06/04 09:49 AM
                                                                                                          Process...Anon2022/06/05 01:55 AM
                                                                                                        There is no 5nm or 7nm anywhere.Heikki Kultala2022/06/02 09:45 AM
                                                                                                          There is no 5nm or 7nm anywhere.Doug S2022/06/02 10:10 AM
                                                                                                            There is no 5nm or 7nm anywhere.Heikki Kultala2022/06/02 10:50 AM
                                                                                                            There is no 5nm or 7nm anywhere.Peter Lewis2022/06/02 11:07 AM
                                                                                                            There is no 5nm or 7nm anywhere.anon22022/06/02 03:30 PM
                                                                                                          There is no 5nm or 7nm anywhere.Anon2022/06/05 12:41 AM
                                                                                                    RISC-VPeter Lewis2022/06/02 12:22 AM
                                                                                                      RISC-VFreddie2022/06/02 06:22 AM
                                                                                                        RISC-V---2022/06/02 12:25 PM
                                                                                                    RISC-VAdrian2022/06/02 12:47 AM
                                                                                                      RISC-VDoug S2022/06/02 10:18 AM
                                                                                                      x86 vs RISCHeikki Kultala2022/06/02 11:04 AM
                                                                                                        x86 vs RISCAnon2022/06/02 01:49 PM
                                                                                                          x86 vs RISCTim Mc2022/06/02 03:20 PM
                                                                                                          x86 vs RISCDoug S2022/06/02 10:01 PM
                                                                                                            x86 vs RISCAnon2022/06/05 12:55 AM
                                                                                                              x86 vs RISCPeter Lewis2022/06/05 03:23 PM
                                                                                                                x86 vs RISCAnon2022/06/05 03:32 PM
                                                                                                                Register Windows.Mark Roulo2022/06/06 08:56 AM
                                                                                                                  Register Windows.blaine2022/06/06 12:51 PM
                                                                                                                    S/W managed TLB missesMark Roulo2022/06/06 01:18 PM
                                                                                                                      S/W managed TLB missesMichael S2022/06/06 01:31 PM
                                                                                                                      S/W managed TLB missesblaine2022/06/06 10:53 PM
                                                                                                                      S/W managed TLB missesvonk2022/06/07 12:04 AM
                                                                                                                      S/W managed TLB missesDoug S2022/06/07 07:50 AM
                                                                                                                        S/W managed TLB missesanon22022/06/07 09:21 PM
                                                                                                                          S/W managed TLB missesJames2022/06/08 01:07 AM
                                                                                                                            S/W managed TLB missesMichael S2022/06/08 01:20 AM
                                                                                                                            S/W managed TLB missesanon22022/06/08 01:53 AM
                                                                                                                          Fairchild Clipper had h/w table walkPaul A. Clayton2022/06/09 11:46 AM
                                                                                                                            Fairchild Clipper had h/w table walkSimon Farnsworth2022/06/10 12:58 AM
                                                                                                                    Register Windows.anon22022/06/06 02:21 PM
                                                                                                        x86 vs RISCEric Fink2022/06/02 09:11 PM
                                                                                                          x86 vs RISCMichael S2022/06/03 05:49 AM
                                                                                                            x86 vs RISCBrett2022/06/03 11:32 AM
                                                                                                            x86 vs RISCAnon2022/06/05 01:23 AM
                                                                                                        x86 vs RISCAdrian2022/06/02 10:47 PM
                                                                                                      RISC-VAnon2022/06/02 01:33 PM
                                                                                                  RISC-V lifespan; encodings2022/06/04 10:39 AM
                                                                                                    µop CachePeter Lewis2022/06/04 05:56 PM
                                                                                                      x86 decode cores2022/06/04 11:32 PM
                                                                                                        x86 decode coresPeter Lewis2022/06/05 12:26 AM
                                                                                                        x86 decode coresPeter Lewis2022/06/06 03:22 AM
                                                                                                      µop CacheDoug S2022/06/05 10:08 AM
                                                                                                    RISC-V lifespan; encodingsEric Fink2022/06/05 03:26 AM
                                                                                                      RISC-V lifespan; encodings2022/06/05 06:37 AM
                                                                                                        RISC-V lifespan; encodingsanonymou52022/06/05 11:32 AM
                                                                                                          RISC-V lifespan; encodingsAnon2022/06/05 02:09 PM
                                                                                                          RISC-V lifespan; encodings2022/06/06 06:52 AM
                                                                                                            RISC-V lifespan; encodingsanonymou52022/06/06 07:07 AM
                                                                                                              RISC-V lifespan; encodingsAdrian2022/06/06 09:59 AM
                                                                                                                RISC-V lifespan; encodingsAnon2022/06/06 11:38 AM
                                                                                                                  RISC-V lifespan; encodingsAdrian2022/06/07 12:21 AM
                                                                                                                    RISC-V lifespan; encodingsMichael S2022/06/07 01:23 AM
                                                                                                                      RISC-V lifespan; encodingsAdrian2022/06/07 04:20 AM
                                                                                                                        RISC-V lifespan; encodingsBrett2022/06/07 05:04 PM
                                                                                                                          RISC-V lifespan; encodingsAnon2022/06/07 08:58 PM
                                                                                                                            RISC-V lifespan; encodings2022/06/08 07:07 AM
                                                                                                                              RISC-V lifespan; encodingsAnon2022/06/08 09:25 AM
                                                                                                                                RISC-V lifespan; encodings2022/06/08 11:07 AM
                                                                                                                RISC-V lifespan; encodingsBrett2022/06/06 12:50 PM
                                                                                                                  RISC-V lifespan; encodingsAdrian2022/06/06 11:59 PM
                                                                                                              RISC-V lifespan; encodingsAdrian2022/06/06 09:59 AM
                                                                                                              RISC-V lifespan; encodings2022/06/06 10:08 AM
                                                                                                    RISC-V lifespan; encodings---2022/06/05 05:12 PM
                                                                                                      RISC-V lifespan; encodingsAnon2022/06/05 05:48 PM
                                                                                                      RISC-V lifespan; encodingsJukka Larja2022/06/05 09:18 PM
                                                                                                        Profile-Guided OptimizationPeter Lewis2022/06/06 02:55 AM
                                                                                                          Profile-Guided Optimizationrwessel2022/06/06 04:26 AM
                                                                                                            Profile-Guided OptimizationDoug S2022/06/06 09:44 AM
                                                                                                              Profile-Guided OptimizationAndrew Clough2022/06/06 10:08 AM
                                                                                                              Profile-Guided Optimizationrwessel2022/06/06 10:57 AM
                                                                                                                Example of JIT cacheMark Roulo2022/06/06 01:10 PM
                                                                                                                  Example of JIT cacherwessel2022/06/06 01:59 PM
                                                                                                                    Example of JIT cacheMark Roulo2022/06/07 05:40 AM
                                                                                                                      Example of JIT cacherwessel2022/06/07 06:46 AM
                                                                                                              Profile-Guided OptimizationSimon Farnsworth2022/06/07 01:47 AM
                                                                                                          Profile-Guided OptimizationJukka Larja2022/06/06 07:42 PM
                                                                                                      Accurate branch prediction is not everythingPaul A. Clayton2022/06/14 10:48 AM
                                                                                                        Accurate branch prediction is not everything---2022/06/14 12:40 PM
                                                                                                          Accurate branch prediction is not everythingJames2022/06/14 02:41 PM
                                                                                                        Accurate branch prediction is not everythingdmcq2022/06/15 08:38 AM
                                                                                                          Accurate branch prediction is not everythingnone2022/06/15 08:57 AM
                                                                                                            Accurate branch prediction is not everythingdmcq2022/06/15 09:23 AM
                                                                                                            Accurate branch prediction is not everythingDoug S2022/06/15 12:55 PM
                                                                                                              Accurate branch prediction is not everythingdmcq2022/06/15 03:38 PM
                                                                                                Adding Neural Engines to x86Peter Lewis2022/06/04 06:06 PM
                                                                                                  Adding Neural Engines to x86Freddie2022/06/05 11:07 AM
                                                                                                    Adding Neural Engines to x86Peter Lewis2022/06/05 03:20 PM
                                                                                                      Adding Neural Engines to x86---2022/06/05 05:40 PM
                                                                                                        Adding Neural Engines to x86Peter Lewis2022/06/05 08:22 PM
                                                                                                  Adding Neural Engines to x86---2022/06/05 05:34 PM
                                                                                                    Missing metricsAnon2022/06/05 05:59 PM
                                                                                                    Adding Neural Engines to x86Peter Lewis2022/06/06 02:41 AM
                                                                                            RISC-VJan Wassenberg2022/05/31 09:00 PM
                                                                                              RISC-VPeter Lewis2022/06/01 03:02 PM
                                                                                                RISC-VJan Wassenberg2022/06/01 09:17 PM
                                                                                              RISC-V Eric Fink2022/06/01 11:25 PM
                                                                                                RISC-VJan Wassenberg2022/06/02 10:10 PM
                                                                                                  RISC-VEric Fink2022/06/02 11:23 PM
                                                                                                    RISC-VJan Wassenberg2022/06/03 10:10 PM
                                                                                                      RISC-VJukka Larja2022/06/03 11:15 PM
                                                                                                        RISC-VJan Wassenberg2022/06/04 10:23 PM
                                                                                                      RISC-VEric Fink2022/06/04 04:59 AM
                                                                                                        RISC-VJan Wassenberg2022/06/04 10:14 PM
                                                                                                    RISC-VLinus Torvalds2022/06/04 09:17 AM
                                                                                                      RISC-V-.-2022/06/04 04:56 PM
                                                                                                        RISC-VLinus Torvalds2022/06/04 07:00 PM
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                                                                                                      RISC-VEric Fink2022/06/05 03:31 AM
                                                                                                        SIMD in parsingWilco2022/06/05 04:40 AM
                                                                                                          SIMD in parsingFoo_2022/06/06 01:19 AM
                                                                                                            SIMD in parsingMichael S2022/06/06 01:43 AM
                                                                                                              SIMD in parsingLinus Torvalds2022/06/06 08:40 AM
                                                                                                          SIMD in parsing-.-2022/06/08 04:28 AM
                                                                                              RISC-V V-extensionHeikki Kultala2022/06/02 09:40 AM
                                                                                                RISC-V V-extensionJan Wassenberg2022/06/02 10:09 PM
                                                                                            RISC-VPer Hesselgren2022/06/01 04:40 AM
                                                                                    Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchBrendan2022/05/23 12:51 AM
                                                                                    Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchBrendan2022/05/23 12:51 AM
                                                                                      Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchBjörn Ragnar Björnsson2022/05/23 04:41 PM
                                                                                        Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchJan Wassenberg2022/05/23 09:38 PM
                                                                                          Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchJukka Larja2022/05/24 01:48 AM
                                                                                            Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchJan Wassenberg2022/05/24 03:35 AM
                                                                                              Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchJukka Larja2022/05/24 06:38 AM
                                                                                                Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchJan Wassenberg2022/05/28 11:51 PM
                                                                                          Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchMichael S2022/05/24 02:48 AM
                                                                                            SIMD applicabilityJan Wassenberg2022/05/24 03:50 AM
                                                                                              Don't mix up SIMD support with AVX2 vs AVX-512 heterogeneityMark Roulo2022/05/24 06:41 AM
                                                                                                Don't mix up SIMD support with AVX2 vs AVX-512 heterogeneityJan Wassenberg2022/05/24 10:23 AM
                                                                                                  Don't mix up SIMD support with AVX2 vs AVX-512 heterogeneitySimon Farnsworth2022/05/24 12:56 PM
                                                                                                Don't mix up SIMD support with AVX2 vs AVX-512 heterogeneityBrendan2022/05/24 04:09 PM
                                                                                                  Don't mix up SIMD support with AVX2 vs AVX-512 heterogeneityDoug S2022/05/24 09:03 PM
                                                                                                    Don't mix up SIMD support with AVX2 vs AVX-512 heterogeneityBrendan2022/05/25 04:37 PM
                                                                                                  Don't mix up SIMD support with AVX2 vs AVX-512 heterogeneityJukka Larja2022/05/25 05:24 AM
                                                                                                    Don't mix up SIMD support with AVX2 vs AVX-512 heterogeneityBrendan2022/05/25 05:16 PM
                                                                                                      Don't mix up SIMD support with AVX2 vs AVX-512 heterogeneityJukka Larja2022/05/25 07:50 PM
                                                                                            Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchAdrian2022/05/24 01:39 PM
                                                                                              Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchJörn Engel2022/05/24 08:41 PM
                                                                                              Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchJan Wassenberg2022/05/28 11:51 PM
                                                                                                Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchAdrian2022/05/29 03:33 AM
                                                                                                  Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchAdrian2022/05/29 03:48 AM
                                                                                                  Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchJan Wassenberg2022/05/29 10:05 AM
                                                                                                    Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchAdrian2022/05/29 12:39 PM
                                                                                                      turbostat instructionsJan Wassenberg2022/05/29 09:51 PM
                                                                                                  Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchSome dude2022/05/30 11:04 AM
                                                                                          Proposal for heterogeneous runtime dispatchSimon Farnsworth2022/05/24 03:21 AM
                                                                                  Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyBrendan2022/05/22 11:41 PM
                                                                                    Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlySimon Farnsworth2022/05/23 02:03 AM
                                                                                      Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyBrendan2022/05/23 08:12 AM
                                                                                        Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlySimon Farnsworth2022/05/24 03:18 AM
                                                                                          Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Onlyrwessel2022/05/24 07:22 AM
                                                                                    Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyLinus Torvalds2022/05/23 11:30 AM
                                                                                      Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyBrendan2022/05/23 12:13 PM
                                                                                        Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyLinus Torvalds2022/05/23 03:54 PM
                                                                                          Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Only2022/05/24 10:49 AM
                                                                                            Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyLinus Torvalds2022/05/24 11:11 AM
                                                                                              Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Only2022/05/24 02:12 PM
                                                                                                Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyLinus Torvalds2022/05/24 03:33 PM
                                                                                          Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyBrendan2022/05/24 12:44 PM
                                                                                            Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlySimon Farnsworth2022/05/24 01:14 PM
                                                                                              Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Only2022/05/24 02:37 PM
                                                                                                Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyJames2022/05/26 02:42 AM
                                                                                              Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyBrendan2022/05/24 08:53 PM
                                                                                              Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyJörn Engel2022/05/24 11:09 PM
                                                                                                Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlySimon Farnsworth2022/05/25 01:27 AM
                                                                                                  Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyJan Wassenberg2022/05/28 11:49 PM
                                                                                                    Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyMichael S2022/05/29 01:15 AM
                                                                                                      Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyLinus Torvalds2022/05/29 09:48 AM
                                                                                                        Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Onlyanonymou52022/05/29 10:35 AM
                                                                                                          Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyLinus Torvalds2022/05/30 10:07 AM
                                                                                                            Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Onlyanonymou52022/05/30 11:46 AM
                                                                                                        Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyMichael S2022/05/29 10:59 AM
                                                                                                      Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyJan Wassenberg2022/05/29 10:20 AM
                                                                                                        Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyMichael S2022/05/29 12:38 PM
                                                                                                          Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyJörn Engel2022/05/29 01:10 PM
                                                                                                          Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Only-.-2022/05/29 04:28 PM
                                                                                                            Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyMichael S2022/05/30 12:32 AM
                                                                                                              Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Only-.-2022/05/30 01:44 AM
                                                                                                                Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyMichael S2022/05/30 02:12 AM
                                                                                                                  Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Only-.-2022/05/30 04:46 AM
                                                                                                          Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyJan Wassenberg2022/05/29 09:48 PM
                                                                                                            quick radix mergeMichael S2022/05/30 12:02 AM
                                                                                                              quick radix mergeJan Wassenberg2022/05/30 06:16 AM
                                                                                                                quick radix mergeMichael S2022/05/30 07:36 AM
                                                                                                                  quick radix mergeJan Wassenberg2022/05/30 09:07 PM
                                                                                                                quick radix mergerwessel2022/05/30 08:36 AM
                                                                                      Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyChristian Bornträger2022/05/24 07:06 AM
                                                                                        Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Onlyrwessel2022/05/24 07:40 AM
                                                                          Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Only2022/05/22 10:51 AM
                                                                            Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyDoug S2022/05/22 07:52 PM
                                                                              Linux doesn't have a plan for hetero-ISA CPUs2022/05/23 05:03 AM
                                                                                Linux doesn't have a plan for hetero-ISA CPUsDoug S2022/05/23 07:35 AM
                                                                                  Linux doesn't have a plan for hetero-ISA CPUsBrendan2022/05/23 10:44 AM
                                                                                    Linux doesn't have a plan for hetero-ISA CPUsGionatan Danti2022/05/24 05:29 AM
                                                                            Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlySimon Farnsworth2022/05/23 03:16 AM
                                                                    Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyJukka Larja2022/05/21 09:23 PM
                                                          well said (NT)Michael S2022/05/21 10:48 AM
                                                  Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyMichael S2022/05/19 04:00 AM
                                                  Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Only-.-2022/05/19 05:25 AM
                                                    Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyMichael S2022/05/20 05:29 AM
                                                  Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores Onlyanonymou52022/05/19 08:46 AM
                                                    Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyCharlie Burnes2022/05/19 01:19 PM
                                                      Sierra Forest Xeons - E Cores OnlyAdrian2022/05/19 11:29 PM
                                              Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Adrian2022/05/18 10:57 PM
                                                Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Brett2022/05/19 09:55 AM
                                                  Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Michael S2022/05/19 10:53 AM
                                                  Lack of Backward Compatibility for Intel AVX512Adrian2022/05/19 11:38 PM
                              Backward Compatibility for SVE2 Code---2022/05/17 01:57 PM
                                Backward Compatibility for SVE2 CodeCharlie Burnes2022/05/17 03:12 PM
                                Backward Compatibility for SVE2 Codeanon12022/05/18 01:44 AM
                                  Backward Compatibility for SVE2 CodeSimon Farnsworth2022/05/18 02:03 AM
                                    Backward Compatibility for SVE2 CodeDoug S2022/05/18 09:14 AM
                                      Backward Compatibility for SVE2 Codedmcq2022/05/20 04:43 AM
                                        Backward Compatibility for SVE2 CodeDoug S2022/05/20 09:07 AM
                                          Backward Compatibility for SVE2 Codedmcq2022/05/21 07:35 AM
                                            Backward Compatibility for SVE2 Codedmcq2022/05/21 07:57 AM
                                  Backward Compatibility for SVE2 Code---2022/05/18 08:56 AM
                      Backward Compatibility for SVE2 CodeJan Wassenberg2022/05/17 11:26 AM
                        Backward Compatibility for SVE2 Code---2022/05/17 02:01 PM
                        Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityCharlie Burnes2022/05/18 02:55 PM
                          Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityBrett2022/05/18 07:57 PM
                            Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityJan Wassenberg2022/05/18 09:16 PM
                              Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityCharlie Burnes2022/05/18 10:03 PM
                                Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityBrett2022/05/18 10:20 PM
                                  Use of Highway to provide backward compatibility---2022/05/19 12:20 PM
                                    Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityCharlie Burnes2022/05/19 02:05 PM
                                      Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityBrett2022/05/19 03:18 PM
                                        Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityCharlie Burnes2022/05/19 06:29 PM
                                          Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityJan Wassenberg2022/05/19 08:12 PM
                                            Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityBrett2022/05/19 09:38 PM
                                            Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityCharlie Burnes2022/05/21 06:48 AM
                                              Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityCharlie Burnes2022/05/21 11:36 AM
                                              Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityJan Wassenberg2022/05/21 09:45 PM
                                                Use of Highway to provide backward compatibilityCharlie Burnes2022/05/22 06:52 AM
        Questions About Apple's AVX512dmcq2022/05/13 03:24 PM
      Questions About Apple's AVX512Matt Lohmann2022/05/13 12:32 PM
        Questions About Apple's AVX512---2022/05/13 01:09 PM
        Questions About Apple's AVX512Anon12022/05/13 02:55 PM
          Questions About Apple's AVX512Matt Lomann2022/05/13 06:02 PM
            Questions About Apple's AVX512---2022/05/13 08:03 PM
            Questions About Apple's AVX512Simon Farnsworth2022/05/14 05:11 AM
              Questions About Apple's AVX512---2022/05/14 11:06 AM
        Questions About Apple's AVX512Adrian2022/05/13 11:35 PM
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