By: Anon (no.delete@this.spam.com), June 5, 2022 1:41 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Heikki Kultala (heikk.i.kultal.a.delete@this.gmail.com) on June 2, 2022 10:45 am wrote:
> Totally wrong.
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> Apple is using TSMC ~15nm process which TSMC calls "N5". N5 is just a name.
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> Intel is using ~18nm process which they originally marketed as "10nm"
> and now call it "Intel 7". Those 10 and 7 are only names.
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> > and AMD uses TSMC's 7nm, and both Intel Intel and AMD supports SMT.
>
> Wrong. AMD uses TSMC's 20nm process which TSMC calls "N7". THis N7 is only a name.
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> And SMT has NOTHING to do with single-thread performance.
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> There is no 7 nm or 5nm anywhere.
Being just meanless names still Intel tries to say that "Intel 7" competes with TSMC 7nm, yet at 16 cores Intel have half the cache, the big cores consumes a lot more power and half the cores are "little", how is that equivalent? And how calling TMSC N7 "20nm" and Intel 7 "18nm" would give a better indication of density and power?
> Totally wrong.
>
> Apple is using TSMC ~15nm process which TSMC calls "N5". N5 is just a name.
>
> Intel is using ~18nm process which they originally marketed as "10nm"
> and now call it "Intel 7". Those 10 and 7 are only names.
>
> > and AMD uses TSMC's 7nm, and both Intel Intel and AMD supports SMT.
>
> Wrong. AMD uses TSMC's 20nm process which TSMC calls "N7". THis N7 is only a name.
>
> And SMT has NOTHING to do with single-thread performance.
>
> There is no 7 nm or 5nm anywhere.
Being just meanless names still Intel tries to say that "Intel 7" competes with TSMC 7nm, yet at 16 cores Intel have half the cache, the big cores consumes a lot more power and half the cores are "little", how is that equivalent? And how calling TMSC N7 "20nm" and Intel 7 "18nm" would give a better indication of density and power?
